Random Bitching Monologues

Diomedes · January 23, 2007, 09:45:35 AM

Repeat after me: Government is good. We need less of the type of government that limits liberty and more of they kind that makes good roads, pays cops firemen and teacher well, etc.

hunt · January 23, 2007, 09:50:17 AM

in the mind of a druggie, pot smoking = liberty

PoopyfaceMcGee · January 23, 2007, 09:54:23 AM

Quote from: Diomedes on January 23, 2007, 09:45:35 AM
Repeat after me: Government is good.

No, it's not. It's inefficient and all-too-powerful. You're delusional if you think you can truly limit the scope of government in your personal life and yet allow them free reign over and use of your income.

Again - your general viewpoint of the government, especially on a national level, makes no sense at all. You think you can make a government as big and rich as possible and it will reward you with nice infrastructure and more heroic firemen and honest policemen. Frankly, it's just hilarious.

The U.S. Government is the biggest fatcat of all the big companies. Bigger than big pharma. Bigger than big oil. And more powerful than all the other ones combined. You see what giving those private behemoths breaks and freedoms does - they build themselves up and give it to the average end user in the rectum as much as possible. The U.S. government is the same, but much worse.

Basically, if you really want to smoke weed and not have it be an issue for employment, embrace the Libertarian viewpoint a little bit. Trust me - the Democrats will never make it easier for you to do drugs.

Diomedes · January 23, 2007, 09:55:38 AM

Quote from: Wingspan on January 23, 2007, 09:42:13 AM
Privacy is not mentioned in the constitution at all. nor in any amendments.

Nor is judicial review.

Quote from: Wingspan on January 23, 2007, 09:42:13 AMYou are allowed to turn down a drug test, but if that means you are also eliminating yourself from the position as well. Well, that is your choice and your problem.

Fair enough. It's a bitch they decide to do that, and that so many people submit to it, but fair enough. Finally...it's also their problem, because a smarter company that doesn't insult prospective employees by proposing to invade their privacy will get a great employee.

Diomedes · January 23, 2007, 10:02:51 AM

Quote from: FFatPatt on January 23, 2007, 09:54:23 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on January 23, 2007, 09:45:35 AM
Repeat after me: Government is good.
No, it's not. It's inefficient and all-too-powerful.

I'm working, can't keep this discussion up.

Government is good. It could be improved a lot, but I believe in it like you people believe in corporations and God. Moving on now.

PoopyfaceMcGee · January 23, 2007, 10:09:46 AM

Your assumption about my belief in big business is incorrect as expected.

I only trust big business slightly more than the government, because I can make choices to support or not support them, whereas the government takes my money every day without me having a say in it.

Rome · January 23, 2007, 10:16:36 AM

Your vote is your say, FF.

Unfortunately, your choices in terms of voting are two sides of the same bad penny in the GOP & the Democratic Party.

Diomedes · January 23, 2007, 10:17:31 AM

I only trust government slightly more than business, and I think good government has a much greater up-side than good business. It boils down to who do you want to have the power...the government, which is (ostensibly) controlled by the people...or the private sector, which is controlled by an oligarchy of the rich. You know where I stand.

PoopyfaceMcGee · January 23, 2007, 10:18:21 AM

Quote from: Jerome99RIP on January 23, 2007, 10:16:36 AM
Unfortunately, your choices in terms of voting are two sides of the same bad penny in the GOP & the Democratic Party.

*ding*

Seabiscuit36 · January 23, 2007, 10:19:07 AM

Bring back the WHIGS

Diomedes · January 23, 2007, 10:19:07 AM

p.s. I'm not a farging democrat. They might as well be George Bush's left hand.

PoopyfaceMcGee · January 23, 2007, 10:20:06 AM

Quote from: Diomedes on January 23, 2007, 10:19:07 AM
p.s. I'm not a farging democrat.

Right, you're a socialist/totalitarian/communist.

Diomedes · January 23, 2007, 10:22:25 AM

Social democrat, I think. But sure, if that's how you want to see it, Nazi Money Lover.

rjs246 · January 23, 2007, 10:25:13 AM

Libertarians are right. All of you are wrong.

PoopyfaceMcGee · January 23, 2007, 10:27:08 AM

No one and nothing loves money more than the Federal government.

Can we at least agree that the tax system and the IRS are some of the most ridiculously overblown wastes of resources around and that a simpler system could net the same or more money with less pervasive impact on the American tax payer?

I'm assuming you're going to disagree and write something about the IRS building roads and bridges, but I at least thought I'd take a stab at something.