From the producers of "The Smoking Ban," bring you "The Food Ban"

[Diomedes]

[FF & friends]money>>>anything[/FF & friends]

[Diomedes]

transfats are poison.  they ought to be banned in food just like arsenic. 

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

The Dio/IGY/Cerevant circle jerk really is an unstoppable force.  I guess we all have to be Socialist Athiests, then.

Just goose step in line, and check your opinions at the door.


I don't eat trans fats, nor would I.  But then they should be banned at a higher level than restaurants.  I suppose the harmful effects of cigarettes on your lungs and marijuana on your brain should then be ignored, though.

[hunt]

now that we're back on the transfats topic....i watched the first hour of "supersize me" last night.  the guy went a little overboard..maybe a lot...like when he vomited while trying to finish off one of his value meals...but it seemed like an interesting concept.
i missed the last hour because "rome" was on...could someone who's seen the whole movie fill me on on the last hour???  just wondering how much his health deteriated after the 30 days.

[Diomedes]

I don't eat trans fats, nor would I.

We all eat transfats..they're practically unavoidable.  Do you eat anything pre-packaged?  Oreos?  Doritos?  Anything that has partially hydrogenated vegetable oil, which is a lot of stuff, is trans fat.

Your body simply can't process the stuff.  Instead, it goes directly to your arterial walls and attaches there for, effectively, ever.  It's poison.

[Diomedes]

echo...echo...

effing server

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

could someone who's seen the whole movie fill me on on the last hour???  just wondering how much his health deteriated after the 30 days.

It was a trainwreck.  I own "Super Size Me" and watch it at times to curb cravings for fast food.

I don't eat trans fats, nor would I.

We all eat transfats..they're practically unavoidable.  Do you eat anything pre-packaged?  Oreos?  Doritos?  Anything that has partially hydrogenated vegetable oil, which is a lot of stuff, is trans fat.

Your body simply can't process the stuff.  Instead, it goes directly to your arterial walls and attaches there for, effectively, ever.  It's poison.

I eat pre-packaged food, but only that without partially-hydrogenated oils.  More and more of those foods are changing their formulas to voluntarily remove the trans fat.

Arguing with me or trying to educate me about trans fat is a waste of time.  I know how bad they are, I know exactly why they're bad, and that's why I refuse to eat them.  Frankly, I think they should be simply banned by the FDA.

Banning them at the restaurant level is pointless and avoids the real widespread issue.

[ice grillin you]

i think the point of doing it at the restaurant level is so that people can be sure of what they are getting...in a grocery stores you have the option of seeing the ingrediants that youre going to be eating not so on a restaurant menu


that said i agree they should be banned oputright

[Cerevant]

i think the point of doing it at the restaurant level is so that people can be sure of what they are getting...in a grocery stores you have the option of seeing the ingrediants that youre going to be eating not so on a restaurant menu


that said i agree they should be banned oputright

Agree.

[Diomedes]

...in a grocery stores you have the option of seeing the ingrediants that youre going to be eating

only thanks to the massive, out of control, evil liberal government...food companies fight tooth and nail to avoid listing ingredients

[hunt]

...in a grocery stores you have the option of seeing the ingrediants that youre going to be eating

only thanks to the massive, out of control, evil liberal government...food companies fight tooth and nail to avoid listing ingredients

yeah...they still try to get around it.  my package of chewy chips ahoy cookies listed 0g of transfat on the box but listed hydrogenated soybean oil in the ingredients list.  well, which is it???
anyway, i ate 7 cookies.

[Cerevant]

yeah...they still try to get around it.  my package of chewy chips ahoy cookies listed 0g of transfat on the box but listed hydrogenated soybean oil in the ingredients list.  well, which is it???
anyway, i ate 7 cookies.

Two possible reasons:

• The US allows the 0% label when there is less than 0.5g / serving (but how much is a serving?)
• Trans fats are partially hydrogenated - I'm still trying to find out if fully hydrogenated fats have the same issues...

[Rome]

if he were honest, that line would stop after "lex"

Ew.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

yeah...they still try to get around it.  my package of chewy chips ahoy cookies listed 0g of transfat on the box but listed hydrogenated soybean oil in the ingredients list.  well, which is it???
anyway, i ate 7 cookies.

Two possible reasons:

• The US allows the 0% label when there is less than 0.5g / serving (but how much is a serving?)
• Trans fats are partially hydrogenated - I'm still trying to find out if fully hydrogenated fats have the same issues...

Partially hydrogenated oils are thought to be far more dangerous than those that have been fully hydrogenated, because not all of the trans fats are converted into saturated fat during the process. Fully hydrogenated oil is essentially saturated fat, and the health risks are the same.

And as for your other comment, yes - they're allowed to round to an extent.  I'm not sure if it's under 0.5 or less, but very many foods read "0g Trans Fat" which is different than simply "NO Trans Fat".  Still, being able to put that on the package is progress for many junk foods.

[Cerevant]

Partially hydrogenated oils are thought to be far more dangerous than those that have been fully hydrogenated, because not all of the trans fats are converted into saturated fat during the process. Fully hydrogenated oil is essentially saturated fat, and the health risks are the same.

Thanks - I've noticed that more and more products have fully hydrogenated fats, and was wondering if that was why.

And as for your other comment, yes - they're allowed to round to an extent.  I'm not sure if it's under 0.5 or less, but very many foods read "0g Trans Fat" which is different than simply "NO Trans Fat".  Still, being able to put that on the package is progress for many junk foods.

From Wikipedia:

On July 11, 2003, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issued a regulation[44] requiring manufacturers to list trans fat on the Nutrition Facts panel of foods and some dietary supplements.[45] The new labeling rule allowed for immediate voluntary compliance with mandatory compliance by January 1, 2006 (although companies may petition for an extension to January 1, 2008). The regulation allows trans fat levels of less than 0.5 grams per serving to be labeled as 0 grams per serving.