Who needs to go? - Front Office / Coaching Staff

[ice grillin you]

funny that you mention the browns...sal pal said they are in serious debt as well and it no coincidence that they and the eagles are in the top five money under the cap

[Butchers Bill]

I still don't understand now, just as I didn't understand then, why Lurie didn't model the naming rights after the Cleveland Browns who sold naming rights to different companies for the gates.  So instead of entering the stadium through Gate A you would enter through the ABC Company gate.  Obviously, its not going to sell for the same price as the naming rights to the entire stadium but when you've got a half dozen gates and you can sell the naming rights to each one to a different company you still stand to make a ton of cash......possibly more when you combine them all than selling the stadium name to one single company.   

Huh?  Thats been done.  The Jeep entrance, Pepsi entrance, etc.

[MURP]

haha he said matt mccoy didnt even get a combine invite....should have never been drafted...should not be in the nfl

again i ask as matarano just did...how could everyone on earth know this except the eagles

what Kiper said about McCoy:

"Through workouts and interviews, Matt McCoy has helped himself more than any defensive player in this draft," states Mel Kiper, an ESPN draft analyst since 1984. "He was a very productive player in major college football and did so by matching a very good player like Morrison. The fact (McCoy) can run so well bodes very well for him. He's a high riser in this draft, a solid second-round pick."

Link

[Wingspan]

the key question is whether this is a conflict of interest...can you have a desire to manage debt AND have a desire to win

um...no it's not a conflict. as the owner of a franchise...those are the two biggest things to do.

while i know you would like to beleive that the other 31 teams are run on the ideology that they will do whatever it takes to win, regardless of their bottom line. that is just not the case.

you want to point to snyder...fine. but snyder has a 92,000 seat staduim, vs a 68,000 seat stadium...that alone right there is $15M more income per season, on ticket prices alone, factor in consessions, and everything else...leads to a lot of money. i gaurantee that he wants to win and watches the bottom line just as closely. remember he tried to charge people for attending training camp?

[Sgt PSN]

he came into the league with money of course but not dan snyder or jerry jones money...for a pro sports owner he wasnt that wealthy



The desire is there to improve but not if it's going to affect their ability to get out of debt. From a business stand point, it makes sense. From a fan stand point, I don't give a shtein. Get some farging players.

the key question is whether this is a conflict of interest...can you have a desire to manage debt AND have a desire to win

Yes, you can have a desire to manage debt and win.  It simply comes down to how long Lurie wants to take to get out of debt.  Let's say he's $100 million in debt and that the team is profiting $10 million per year.  Obviously it would take 10 years to get out of debt (longer when you calculate interest on his loan(s) but we'll keep it simple.)  So it comes down to whether Lurie wants to stick with that 10 year plan or does he want to lengthen the amount of time he's in debt?  He could easily take $5 million of that profit and reinvest it into the team for new players but then it would take him 20 years to pay off his loans. 

Of course, the argument could (and should) be made that if Lurie would invest more of the team's profits back into the team and keep a legitmate Super Bowl contender on the field year in and year out that the team profits would continue to go up, meaning that he'll still be able to get out of debt in a timely manner....perhaps even faster than originally planned.

[Rome]

If the Eagles owe so much money and are in such dire financial straits, why are they consistently ranked by Forbes as one of the most valuable franchises in professional sports?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2568057


Eagles worth: $1,024B. . . that's B as in BILLION, folks.

[ice grillin you]

so the eagles conduct their draft according to mels bible....makes sense as that would save lots of money on the scouting dept

[Quasimoto]

So does this mean we'll suck even after Reid is gone?  Until the debt is paid (if it ever is) we're going to suck for quite sometime aren't we?  Yay!!

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

-whole heartedly believes that they want to win but they also want to manage their debt just as much

That makes a lot of sense, actually.  It's kind of the way I manage my own finances.

[ice grillin you]

um...no it's not a conflict. as the owner of a franchise...those are the two biggest things to do.

while i know you would like to beleive that the other 31 teams are run on the ideology that they will do whatever it takes to win, regardless of their bottom line. that is just not the case.

i think youre confusing managing debt with making money

teams are supposed to make money but very few are actually in debt...theres a big difference between going all out to win and perhaps not making as much money as you could vs being in so much debt that you cant put 100% towards winning

being ridiculosly far under the cap would be an example....locking up undeserving players to long term deals would be another

[MURP]

If the Eagles want to save all this money, then why do they pay their coaches more than just about any team in the league?

[Sgt PSN]

Because it's extremely hard to find people who make incompetance look so easy. 

[ice grillin you]

they may pay their coaches more than other coaches in the league but they dont pay them more than what some big time players would make

paying jim johnson a few extra hundred thousand a year is peanuts compared to being 26 mil under the cap

[SD_Eagle5]

Over the past 5 years only the Skins have paid more money to players than the Eagles. If you look at the ACTUAL money they put out year in year out the Eagles are usually second. They have so much unused cap space because of the loophole Banner created. Phreak or MURP posted an article a few years ago that explained it.

[fansince61]

If the Eagles want to save all this money, then why do they pay their coaches more than just about any team in the league?

I think they have convinced ownership that excellent coaching offsets mediocre talent