Irvin says Romo's athleticism due to black ancestry

[Diomedes]

I bow to the "they just are" argument.  Rock solid.

[The BIGSTUD]

Do you disagree?

[Father Demon]

Three words.

National.
Hockey.
League.

I wonder why they just aren't in hockey?

[Quasimoto]

Whether Irvin's comment was harmless or not he should be fired.  He's an idiot.  He has no speed bump from his brain to his mouth. 

Not to mention have you seen the suits he wears?  Where is his fashion sense?  Did he lose that when he went down at the Vet?

[The BIGSTUD]

Irvin was talking about athleticism in terms in running fast and jumping high, because of Romo's ability to scramble. While the NHL is a sport like the other 3, and takes a lot of skill, it isn't really a sport that relies on athleticism like the NFL and NBA do and behind them, MLB.

Hell, even the best track stars ever are all black.

[Father Demon]

Not that this list is the unequivocal resource for the hardest things to do in sports, but USA Today did a list of the Top 10.  One could argue that hardest thing to do = requiring the most athleticism.  (Caveat - I don't agree with this list, but it's all I could find in a quick Google. Personally, I think re-directing a slap-shot into the goal, some gymnastics (backward flip on the balance beam, rings, parallel bars), triathalons (a marathon PLUS swimming and bike-riding), being a great NFL quarterback, and stopping a 100 MPH slapshot all should be on a list somewhere.).

1. Hit a baseball. Considering that a major-league pitch can reaches speeds more than 95 mph, hitters have only 0.4 seconds to find the ball, decide where the ball is going and swing the bat. (Mostly blacks and Latin Americans)
2. Race car driving. Skilled drivers encounter a host of problems, but rounding the corners of the track is equivalent to having three 300-pound linemen pushing you for three of the four hours it takes to conclude a race. (Mostly whites)
3. Pole vaulting. Vaulting is a matter of redirecting kinetic energy of the runner's approach speed upward, aided by a long fiberglass pole. To do it, athletes need speed for the sprint, strength for lift-off and flexibility to bend the body over the bar. (Not sure)
4. Hitting a long, straight tee shot. Driving a golf ball far and long seems to be an easy thing, until you try it; even professionals have trouble with it. Last year on the PGA tour, only two players, Tiger Woods and Chris Smith, ranked in the top ten for both driving distance and greens in regulation. (Mostly whites)
5. Returning a serve. Traveling at over 130 mph, a tennis serve by today's top tennis players is traveling at 185 feet per second. At that speed, a player trying to return the serve has a half second to react and return the serve. (mostly whites)
6. Landing a quad. Executing a quad toe loop requires a skater to balance height and rotation while skating on a metal blade a quarter of an inch wide. During a successful quad jump, a skater will reach heights of 18 inches above the ice and experience 300 pounds of centrifugal force, all while spinning four times in just over .5 seconds. (mostly white)
7. Running a marathon. Running a 26.2-mile race is physically demanding and requires a runner to be disciplined, well-trained and able to withstand pain. Runners, including elite marathoners, often suffer from nagging injuries in the lower back, knees, shins, ankles, Achilles' tendons and feet. However, most runners will say the reward of finishing a marathon justifies the pain. (most winners are black)
8. Tour de France. The Tour de France covers more than 2,500 miles in three weeks and requires a variety of cycling skills that must be performed at levels far beyond those of recreational riders. On flat stretches of the course, tour riders must maintain speeds more than 30 mph for hours on stretch. During mountain climbs, cyclists must be able to ride up mountain roads with grades as steep as 15%. (mostly white)
9. Saving a penalty kick. On the soccer field, the goalkeeper's job is to protect a goal that is 24 feet wide and eight feet high — 192 square feet waiting to swallow a ball about 9 inches in diameter. During a penalty kick, the goalie has 0.25 seconds to move and block a ball traveling at more than 60 mph. (not sure)
10. The downhill. The downhill is an 80-mph exercise in balance and control. With little protection, ski racers hurl themselves down an icy mountain course, alternately digging in their edges to carve the fastest line through turns and putting their skis flat on the snow to gain speed in the straightaways. They fight gravitational and centrifugal forces at every stage in the race. (mostly whites)

So, if this list truly is the Top 10, and if the hardest things in sports to do require the most athleticism, then it appears as if your argument that blacks have superior athleticism is bullshtein.  Blacks seem to excel at some sports, as do whites.  My guess is culture, demographics, and environment.

But you go on believing your "they just are" side of things.

[The BIGSTUD]

Most of those things don't require any physical skills, which is what athleticism is.

Irvin was talking athleticism in terms of physical in-born skills, not the ability to master a sport. For example Vince Carter is WAY more athletic than Dirk Nowitzki, but Dirk Nowitzki is the better player. Irvin was talking about pure physical skills(ie running fast, jumping high). For whatever reason black people are much better in that department. Just look through the NBA, NFL, MLB.

Name me any white players who can do what Jordan, Vick, Vince Carter, Kobe, Moss, Steve Smith, Chad Johnson, etc can do.

There are white player who are athletic as well like Matt Jones, David Wright, Tim Dwight, but there are far more blacks whoa re freakishly athletic.

[Father Demon]

I have to leave this discussion.  You've dumbed me down enough for one afternoon.

[Northern Eagle]

Mr. MVP - Steve Nash

[The BIGSTUD]

Steve Nash couldn't dunk on stilts. He's a great player, but he's far from athletic.

Spud Webb and Muggsy Bogues on the other hand.... were the smallest players that could ever dunk and last time I checked neither were white.

The sports that white players dominate are always sports that require no athleticism like golf(although Tiger Woods and Sing are great players) Nascar, NHL, bowling, etc.

Do you honestly think it is a coincidence that the two sports that require pure athletic skills more than any other sports are dominated by black people? Can you even name more than 3 white RBs or the last time a white WR made the pro bowl?

How many times have white players won a dunk contest other than Barry? How many times do white athletes become best in the world in track?

I'm white myself, but to say white people are equally athletic as black people is ignorant, stupid, and moronic. If you want to argue it more, be my guest, but I will bury you. That is if you have the balls to try to make an argument over something so frickin obvious.

[General_Failure]

Hockey requires no athletic skill. Gotcha.

[The BIGSTUD]

Some, but not a lot. You're on ice and use skates. Two, you don't even need to leave your feet.

It doesn't require nearly the same amount of athletic ability as football, basketball or baseball.

[General_Failure]

Proof that you've never played a sport in your life.

[Quasimoto]

When I tried to play hockey I was awful at it.  It requires a lot of balance and coordination none of which I have.  The only sports I were ever good at were soccer and football.

[General_Failure]

I liked street hockey, since I could never stand on iceskates or rollerblades.


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