McNabb's Injury

Started by mussa, November 19, 2006, 03:08:32 PM

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Geowhizzer

Quote from: King Cole on November 21, 2006, 06:47:44 PM
Gruden won a Superbowl and flat out owned Jim Johnson back in the 02 NFCCG. I love Gruden and his team up in Tampa has no talent. If he was on the Eagles he'd know exactly how to utilize the talent here.

Gruden won a Super Bowl with Tony Dungy's team.  Now that he's been building the team for a few years, you see where he's at.

rjs246

Quote from: Geowhizzer on November 21, 2006, 07:16:36 PM
Gruden won a Super Bowl with Tony Dungy's team. Now that he's been building the team for a few years, you see where he's at.

With the exception of a RB and the LBs this team doesn't need to be 'built', it needs to be coached. Gruden is excellent at that part of the equation.
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SD_Eagle5

Quote from: Geowhizzer on November 21, 2006, 07:16:36 PM
Quote from: King Cole on November 21, 2006, 06:47:44 PM
Gruden won a Superbowl and flat out owned Jim Johnson back in the 02 NFCCG. I love Gruden and his team up in Tampa has no talent. If he was on the Eagles he'd know exactly how to utilize the talent here.

Gruden won a Super Bowl with Tony Dungy's team.  Now that he's been building the team for a few years, you see where he's at.

He did 'build' the Raiders into a SuperBowl team before leaving. They were something like 4-12 when he took over.

Drunkmasterflex

Quote from: Geowhizzer on November 21, 2006, 07:16:36 PM
Quote from: King Cole on November 21, 2006, 06:47:44 PM
Gruden won a Superbowl and flat out owned Jim Johnson back in the 02 NFCCG. I love Gruden and his team up in Tampa has no talent. If he was on the Eagles he'd know exactly how to utilize the talent here.

Gruden won a Super Bowl with Tony Dungy's team.  Now that he's been building the team for a few years, you see where he's at.

That is true, but Dungy wasn't able to do it.  Hell, Dungy still hasn't been able to with an even better Colts team. 
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Quote from: SD_Eagle on November 21, 2006, 07:25:34 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on November 21, 2006, 07:16:36 PM
Quote from: King Cole on November 21, 2006, 06:47:44 PM
Gruden won a Superbowl and flat out owned Jim Johnson back in the 02 NFCCG. I love Gruden and his team up in Tampa has no talent. If he was on the Eagles he'd know exactly how to utilize the talent here.

Gruden won a Super Bowl with Tony Dungy's team.  Now that he's been building the team for a few years, you see where he's at.

He did 'build' the Raiders into a SuperBowl team before leaving. They were something like 4-12 when he took over.

And about the same the year after they went to the Super Bowl.  And ever since.

SunMo

why is it even debatable if Gruden is a better coach?
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Wingspan

i would want no parts of gruden or fisher.

i would look at Ron Rivera. he has a past with a lot of these players, and would probably be the best fit that i can see.

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General_Failure

Rivera, Fisher, fine. Good guys. I'll stop paying attention completely if Gruden's name seriously comes up.

The man. The myth. The legend.

mussa

Honestly McNabb is our only hope at QB, ACL injury or not, he's our best option. Put him in a different offense, preferably a running offense and he's going to be just fine.  He's not a 40 plus pass QB, there might be one QB in the league now who could do it, but pass happy teams don't win super bowls. the problem is the offensive scheme. its Reid. he needs to go ASAP.

I think McNabb will return from this injury just fine...but if he's going to be passing 75% of the plays its not going to work. It didn't work before and it def won't post injury. Our only hope for a super bowl is a diff. offensive approach, plain and simple. 
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MURP

even if he is on the downside of his career, he is a better option than most other QB's. 

RezRob

Quote from: 4and26 on November 21, 2006, 10:10:40 PM
Right/ Wrong   Loser?  Discuss:

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That guys an asshat. I read scouting mags this preseason that talked about Mcnabbs declining skills, then he starts with MVP numbers. He has shown he make plays in the pocket. That rocket arm has been healthy and will keep him in the league for years. His exp and understanding of this offense isn't going to degrade, I see no reason he can't play well into his late 30's. Christ Miami threw Marino out there on 2 wooden legs. Declining mobility probably... he's 30 when he comes back. Best days behind him..? I wouldn't jump out the window on that assesment.
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Susquehanna Birder

His "rocket arm" is part of the problem. Dude rarely has the sense to throw with the right touch. Yeah, the fastballs are great for throwing into tight coverage, or 60 yards down the sideline...but he can't lob it over a linebacker's head to a wide-open guy in the endzone.

The only thing that makes him the weapon that he is: his mobility. He tried to play it down a while back, and the result was that everyone wanted him to run more. If he can't run, he's an average QB at best.

MURP

All I know is that McNabbs completion percentage would be above 65% this year if the team didnt drop every other damn pass. 

Susquehanna Birder

I know it's a chicken-and-egg thing, but I think that quite a few of those drops could have been more catchable.