Donte' Stallworth

[Father Demon]

I was 100% wrong on all my Stallworth predictions. 

Oh well.

This sucks hugely and massively and gigantically.

Not giving up yet.  Like I said, all this other stuff is Rosenhaus' smoke and mirror act, and Stallworth will be an Eagle by the beginning of next week.

[ice grillin you]

but free agency isnt how you build a team!...if i never hear that again it will be to soon...

not saying it is the way to build a team but please joe banner shut up about that...

see you build a team by getting good players...whether it be draft....free agency or the eagles preferred method of undrafted free agents...it doesnt matter...fill your roster with guys who can play and chances are good things will happen

what is so hard about this

[Diomedes]

what is so hard about this

the goal is to maximize profit first, superbowl second.

[PhillyGirl]

Do we even know that the Patriots made the offer being talked about? Since just about NOTHING else is true, has it been determined if these numbers are even legit?

[Diomedes]

From what I can tell/have read, no.  We know nothing.

[ice grillin you]

i think its pretty clear that they made him an offer...the patriots hosted him yesterday its been reported both in the philly and boston media that an offer was made...whats in question is the 6/32/12 numbers that got out there...im betting that was all rosenhaus

[Sgt PSN]

but free agency isnt how you build a team!...if i never hear that again it will be to soon...

not saying it is the way to build a team but please joe banner shut up about that...

see you build a team by getting good players...whether it be draft....free agency or the eagles preferred method of undrafted free agents...it doesnt matter...fill your roster with guys who can play and chances are good things will happen

what is so hard about this

I do believe in the "build through the draft" philosophy and this is one area where the Eagles have done a pretty good job in for the most part ever since Reid came in.  Of course, some of the contract extensions they gave to certain players last year are a bit questionable, but for the most part they've been pretty good about getting key players locked up long term while they are still young.  

But what is frustrating to no end is that this team doesn't seem to place any value in aquiring experienced, proven veterans through free agency.  Instead, they seem to mostly use free agency to pick up some 2nd or 3rd tier "project" player that they think they can mold into a playmaker.

I can respect and appreciate the fact that they don't go around spending obsene amounts of money on free agents every year.  But it doesn't take a genious to identify 1 or 2 available players each year who will no doubt make an impact on your team and do what it takes to get them.  They've done that 1 time so far.  Kearse and TO.  Where'd it get them?  Oh yeah, the Super Bowl.    

[PhillyGirl]

i think its pretty clear that they made him an offer...the patriots hosted him yesterday its been reported both in the philly and boston media that an offer was made...whats in question is the 6/32/12 numbers that got out there...im betting that was all rosenhaus

That's what I meant, the numbers. People are freaking saying that "if the Eagles let him walk over a contract like that, they should burn" etc....so I am just asking if those numbers were even based on anything at all. Or were they based on the same "source" that said the deal was done.

[SidFarkus]

But what is frustrating to no end is that this team doesn't seem to place any value in aquiring experienced, proven veterans through free agency.  Instead, they seem to mostly use free agency to pick up some 2nd or 3rd tier "project" player that they think they can mold into a playmaker.

I can respect and appreciate the fact that they don't go around spending obsene amounts of money on free agents every year.  But it doesn't take a genious to identify 1 or 2 available players each year who will no doubt make an impact on your team and do what it takes to get them.  They've done that 1 time so far.  Kearse and TO.  Where'd it get them?  Oh yeah, the Super Bowl.   

Even more frustrating is that it makes you think they can't even see their own needs. I'm glad they aren't the taterskins and don't go get any name player at any position... but if they can't see that this LB corps isn't in dire need of some proven, veteran help they are insane.

[SunMo]

I do believe in the "build through the draft" philosophy and this is one area where the Eagles have done a pretty good job in for the most part ever since Reid came in.   

They've done ok, but nothing great, it's not like they are Pittsburgh or New England that has a good draft almost every year.

I said this before, but from the picks they had in the 04 and 05 ( i think it was 16 picks) drafts there are only 3 or 4 players still on the team it's players from those drafts that should be filling out this team.  I actually wonder what the ratio of free agents/trades:draft picks:undrafted free agents this team is comprised of.

[Feva]

i think its pretty clear that they made him an offer...the patriots hosted him yesterday its been reported both in the philly and boston media that an offer was made...whats in question is the 6/32/12 numbers that got out there...im betting that was all rosenhaus

That's what I meant, the numbers. People are freaking saying that "if the Eagles let him walk over a contract like that, they should burn" etc....so I am just asking if those numbers were even based on anything at all. Or were they based on the same "source" that said the deal was done.

I don't know if anybody's "freaking"... matter of fact, I don't recall anyone not using "if".

Personally, my thing is that if the Eagles were to let him walk over a contract in the area of the 6y/32m/12m, then they should be shot because that's a more then reasonable contract for Stallworth (I mean, look at what Wes farging Welker just got from the Patriots) and one the Eagles could easily afford.

Now if he signs for something outrageous, like closer to that 6y/40m/18m that he was rumored to be asking for... sure I'd still be pissed because we'd no longer have Stallworth, but I can at least see a reason the Eagles would be hesitant in bringing him back.

[BigEd76]

look at what Wes farging Welker just got from the Patriots

He got slightly more than Bobby Wade.  It wasn't $38.5M...

[ice grillin you]

forget that there are at least two other teams in the mix does anyone really believe stallworth would head to head choose the eagles over new england unless the eagles blew away the pats offer which we know would never happen

aj feely/mcnabb vs tom brady?

three time sb champs vs "gold standard"

its not like the eagles are going up against arizona or minnesota to get this guy

[Sgt PSN]

I do believe in the "build through the draft" philosophy and this is one area where the Eagles have done a pretty good job in for the most part ever since Reid came in.   

They've done ok, but nothing great, it's not like they are Pittsburgh or New England that has a good draft almost every year.

I said this before, but from the picks they had in the 04 and 05 ( i think it was 16 picks) drafts there are only 3 or 4 players still on the team it's players from those drafts that should be filling out this team.  I actually wonder what the ratio of free agents/trades:draft picks:undrafted free agents this team is comprised of.

Can't say I disagree with you.  I'd say they've been better than most teams in the league in terms of building their core through the draft but obviously there are some other teams who are a bit better at it.

[ice grillin you]

the eagles problem is not that they are terrible overall at drafting...i would say they are spotty....its their utter inability to draft certain positions

they simply cannot find LB - DL - WR's that can play