Donte' Stallworth

[Cerevant]

FWIW, there are a couple of sources that say that the Saints get a 3rd if the Eagles sign Stallworth to a long-term deal.  My guess is that the terms of the deal can only run as long as the Saints hold his rights: once Stallworth becomes an unrestricted free agent, he is not under contract with anyone.  So the Saints didn't "decide" that the Eagles could sign him after his contract was up, they had no say in the matter.

We'll see in a few weeks...

[ice grillin you]

FWIW, there are a couple of sources that say that the Saints get a 3rd if the Eagles sign Stallworth to a long-term deal.

this is fact and has been known since the deal was struck

My guess is that the terms of the deal can only run as long as the Saints hold his rights: once Stallworth becomes an unrestricted free agent, he is not under contract with anyone.  So the Saints didn't "decide" that the Eagles could sign him after his contract was up, they had no say in the matter.

so what are you saying then...once he hits the market it becomes and stays a 4th rounder no matter what happens?

[Cerevant]

Correct because (IMO) after that point, neither team holds Stallworth's rights.

[ice grillin you]

then we agree

i emailed bowen and brookover to try and find an answer

[Munson]

because im judging my belief mostly on things that have been said by the eagles since the trade was made

whereas the saints had no idea what would happen at the time of making the trade

again that may very well have been negotiated into the trade im not saying it wasnt...but id like to see proof that it is the case...and if it is i would rasie the chances of the eagles resigning stallworth from 0% to 4%

Which is right around where I have it too...because and only because my understanding of the trade was if the Eagles wait until FA to sign him, it's a 4th round pick instead of a 3rd, which seems like something this FO would wait for. Other then that one reason, I dont see why else the FO would be stupid enough to let him hit open market and then try resigning him.

[BigEd76]

Going off memory here so I may have forgotten something, but Stallworth did an interview with Neil Hartman tonight on CSN....

-- re-signing with the Eagles is his top priority...doesn't really want to go somewhere else but will do what's best for him and his family...wants to sign a 5- or 6-year deal
-- says he'd be cheating himself if he didn't see what was out there in free agency but everyone else is a distant second
-- when asked if he thought he'd get huge money here compared to other places, he said that both sides give and take in these situations and work towards a fair deal
-- says everyone brings up the hamstring issues but they never mention that he played all 16 games in 2004 and 2005....says he's been seeing a specialist that Burkholder recommended
-- says he hasn't talked to Reid in the last 2-3 weeks and doesn't know his sons that well since he's been here for only a few months, but everything he's heard is that they're great kids
-- he'll be on Best Damn Sports Show Period tomorrow night
-- he'll be at the NBA All-Star game this weekend after being at the Super Bowl two weeks ago, and says all this travel and partying is taking years off his life

[ice grillin you]

says everyone brings up the hamstring issues but they never mention that he played all 16 games in 2004 and 2005

igy mentions it

[Munson]

says everyone brings up the hamstring issues but they never mention that he played all 16 games in 2004 and 2005

igy mentions it

Missing significant time in 3 out of 5 regular seasons in the NFL=not injury prone
Missing significant time in only 1 regular season=Injury prone

Got it.

[ice grillin you]

if you play in the nfl youre injury prone

derrick burgess is the perfect example as to why you dont use an injury as an excuse not to pay an ultra talented player...just like lecharles bently is not a reason you dont sign people to big money contracts

and you definitely dont let someone go whos missed four games in three years

[Munson]

I agree with most of htat post. I'm not saying Donte Stallworth is for sure injury prone, or that the Eagles shouldn't resign him. I want him to stay here, the Eagles need him at WR. I just don't understand, and this is the 2nd time I've said this to you, what your double standard is with defending his injury history in the NFL (missing significant time 3 out of 5 seasons with hamstring problems), yet before this season you were all over Brian Westbrook (in a bad, no-homo way) and called him "injury prone" with significant time missed only during 1 regular season. Broken ribs and a sore knee on an NFL runningback don't really constitute as "injury prone" to me. And no, it's not becauise Westbrook is an Eagle. I'm not going to blame any NFL RB for having sore knees and brusing/breaking some ribs along the way. It's part of the job.

I know that fighting for Stallworth to get resigned is a part of your anti-Eagles FO agenda, but if you're going to defend Stallworth's NFL injury history, it's probably not a good idea to attack a guy who's actually missed less time in as many seasons. Not that you've attacked him lately. But who has since he put up 1000 yards and over 200 carries.

[ice grillin you]

yet before this season you were all over Brian Westbrook (in a bad, no-homo way) and called him "injury prone" with significant time missed only during 1 regular season

westbrook has blown knees going back to high school...that was my only concern with him...a little different than missing some games with hammy injuries like stallworth...and anyway im not sure i ever said westbrook was injury prone and if i did it wasnt in the context of not signing him or even that he couldnt handle an extensive workload...i fully supported him getting re upped last year and ive always championed his cause in terms of getting more carries...so really i dont know what youre trying to say here

[rjs246]

He's just whining about a five month old conversation that you weren't even involved in. Don't worry.

[General_Failure]

The sexual tension is too much here, I can't take it. Go make out already.

[rjs246]

No.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Westbrook and Stallworth are both injury-prone to an extent and both worth the risk and the big dollars.