Donte' Stallworth

Started by BigSaint8050, November 07, 2006, 09:44:31 PM

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Cerevant

Quote from: ice grillin you on January 22, 2007, 02:55:09 PM
im gonna go with what andy said on the radio the other day....

This is a much better idea than going with anything Spads ever says.  He has no more credibility or relevance than Art.
An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.

Eaglez

I think Andy tipped his hat a bit when he said "it WAS nice having him here", but Andy always talks in the past tense. He never realizes when someone is still affiliated with the team or not.

However, when he says "was" in that context, I'm guessing Andy would like to have him back, but that he is not going to bend over backwards to make it happen. Essentially, the Eagles will make him one contract offer, and if he doesn't like it, he'll be shown the door.


ice grillin you

I think Andy tipped his hat a bit when he said "it WAS nice having him here", but Andy always talks in the past tense. He never realizes when someone is still affiliated with the team or not.


he didnt talk in past tense when talking about garcia or thomas
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Eaglez

#348
Yeah, but you forgot to quote the other half of my post. Saying that Stallworth "was nice to have around" in that context indicates, most likely, that Stallworth is gone.

I just noticed that Andy sometimes uses the past tense when referring to guys still on the team and still under contract, i.e. "it was nice having him in the lineup" even though the player is still under contract instead of saying "he is great to have in the lineup". But in the context of Stallworth being an UFA in a matter of weeks, it seems like he's willing to let him walk and seemingly tipped his hat when he made that comment.


hbionic

My two cents.

The Eagles FO is farging retarded. They should stop playing madden with this team and start spending some cash!
I said watch the game and you will see my spirit manifest.-ILLEAGLE 02/04/05


Eaglez

It's somewhat ironic that Banner is praised for being such a salary cap genius but this year the Eagles have more UFAs than any year in recent memory (11 -- with 9 of them being at least decent players to very good/excellent players) and the Eagles have less salary cap space to work with than usual.


BigEd76

The season is over.  How can he still talk in present sense?  I think there's too much analysis on the words being used...

Munson

Quote from: BigEd76 on January 22, 2007, 09:51:03 PM
The season is over.  How can he still talk in present sense?  I think there's too much analysis on the words being used...

UseD?! If you said "use" without the D, then Stallworth might be coming back...But you...you totally said "useD"...past tense....STALLWORTH IS GONZ!!111!11!!1!


But seriously Ed...it's not looking good.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

Geowhizzer

Holy moses all you guys need Prozac or something.  :-D

PhillyPhreak54

Quote from: ice grillin you on January 22, 2007, 12:06:22 PM
but stats talk in contract deals

i disagree....stats talk on extremeskins...in contract dealings everything comes in...best believe donte ronsenhaus and other teams will bring up and look at the eagles spread it around offense and say donte has the talent to be a #1 in another city

on the flip side the eagles will look and say well we spread the ball around and we can get hank baskett or anyone else to do the same thing


I was more or less talking about the Furrey side of things. You know him and his agent will be singing 98 catches and 1086 yards to Millen and his cronies and he'll likely be paid for putting up those numbers.

And they'll become a part of the Stallworth dealings when Drew brings up the games missed and that he could have added maybe 20 catches to his total and more TDs, etc.

Eaglez

True. It is only a week into the season and speculation is running rampant.

Most Eagles fans want Stallworth to stay. It just seems like early indications by people in a position of influence are somewhat dismissive about the prospects of re-signing him.

We need something to pass the time, right?


ice grillin you

The season is over.  How can he still talk in present sense?

normally id agree but the words used to describe stallworth are very much different than those used to describe garcia and other potential free agents

thats my main problem with the way theyve dealt with stallworth..its almost like they knew hed cost a lot and right from the jump theyve done everything possible to lessen his importance and talent....'hes always hurt'...'the team wasnt any better when he was playing vs not playing'...and on and on

its like they were more conerned with the public relations side of the stallworth free agency than they were with trying to resign him...how about stallworth is a very important piece of our team and we really want him back and will make every effort to do so...what would be so wrong with that...its basically what they said about garcia
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Rome

If they let him get to free agency, they're crazy.  There is no one, AND I MEAN NO ONE out there who is remotely close to Stallworth in terms of talent, speed, production and experience.  He's a clear #1 receiver on a team with a #2 and about five #4's.  It's insane that this has even gotten this far.

Sign the man.

Seabiscuit36

I could care less about Garcia coming back but Stallworth is a must.  Everyone seems to forget how well he played with donovan.  Donovan is a different QB when he has competant receivers to throw to.  Look at his performances before TO was an ahole or when Stallworth was healthy. 

This FO has already let Stallworth go and wont resign him because they think he's not worth the money or too injury prone.  Resign him and get Burkholder working on his groin problems and a specific training regimen to prevent the same injuries.  Dont try to feed US the fans with Avant and Baskett who will be decent #3's but not a #1 like Stallworth with blazing speed and a knack to break coverage. 
"For all the civic slurs, for all the unsavory things said of the Philadelphia fans, also say this: They could teach loyalty to a dog. Their capacity for pain is without limit." -Bill Lyons

ice grillin you

10-4 with stallworth

2-2 without stallworth
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous