Donte' Stallworth

Started by BigSaint8050, November 07, 2006, 09:44:31 PM

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ice grillin you

but stats talk in contract deals

i disagree....stats talk on extremeskins...in contract dealings everything comes in...best believe donte ronsenhaus and other teams will bring up and look at the eagles spread it around offense and say donte has the talent to be a #1 in another city

on the flip side the eagles will look and say well we spread the ball around and we can get hank baskett or anyone else to do the same thing

i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

SunMo

Quote from: FFatPatt on January 22, 2007, 12:04:45 PM
Greg had a much better regular season than Gaffney did in New England and actually filled his role nicely.


Gaffney didn't play a whole regular season, no kidding that the guy who played an entire season had a better year than the guy who didn't.

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Munson

Jabar Gaffney was also too stupid to understand the west coast offense.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

Diomedes

#333
Maybe that's not a bad thing?  Maybe the offense should be tailored to fit the team, not the other way around?

I'm not just kidding around.  The WCO seems to work well for some, but not so well for others.  There ARE other ways to win than WCO.
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Feva

Quote from: FFatPatt on January 22, 2007, 11:56:08 AM
The only scenario in which I'm ok with them not re-signing Stallworth is if all of the following happen:

1.  He signs elsewhere and becomes one of the top-5 paid WR's in the game.
2.  The Eagles actually spend a chunk of cap money on improving the front seven on defense.
3.  They sign or trade for a veteran of some sort that is actually good enough to start at WR, instead of trying to pass off Baskett, Lewis, or Avant as a starting WR.

So much for #3.  They've already started the propoganda machine.

I know it's Spads and all, but this line of thinking makes me want to rip someone's head off...

QuoteThe Burning Question 

January 22, 2007
By DAVE SPADARO

What Does The Picture Look Like At WR?

The Eagles had a terrific year at the position in 2006 after a transition period in the post-Terrell Owens months. Reggie Brown grew up in his second season and, after some early ups and downs, had a fine sophomore year. A pair of rookie receivers, Hank Baskett and Jason Avant, shined for the most part when given the opportunities to make plays. Greg Lewis found his niche as a reliable and productive third-down receiver.

(Talking WR's and not even a mention of Stallworth until the second paragraph.  :boom)

Donté Stallworth completed the picture in '06. He gave the Eagles an explosive presence down the field, and was a good blocker for the running game. Stallworth's speed certainly added a home-run threat in the passing game. Stallworth missed four games with a hamstring injury, which was a concern, and now his status as an unrestricted free agent to be is one of the off-season's most interesting stories to follow.

If Stallworth remains an Eagle, the team has a deep and varied group at the position. If Stallworth leaves in free agency - and should he reach free agency he figures to be one of the more coveted players - the Eagles need Baskett and Avant to make dramatic increases in their roles for 2007. Baskett started in Stallworth's absence and acquitted himself well, but he does not have the same down-the-field speed. Baskett showed he has enough speed on his two 80-plus-yard touchdown catches and runs, but his primary strengths are his big body, his outstanding hands and his ability to be a physical receiver.

Avant isn't a burner, either, but he seemed to pick up the offense well. Avant is a sharp route runner, a tough and physical player and he has excellent hands. Avant had a tremendous career at Michigan and figures to make a solid leap forward in his second NFL season.  (I like Avant and all, but make a "solid leap" from his 7 catches this season?  He was only activated for half the games this season.  How the hell do they know what they have with him?)

Lewis is likely to remain in a similar role, regardless of Stallworth's status. Brown, a big-play maker throughout his second season, should only get better and seems prepared to be a go-to receiver in any offense.

Stallworth is the big question mark here and the speculation will be relentless until his status is answered one way or another. Will he stay or will he go? Maybe, maybe not. In the meantime, the Eagles have a lot to work with here, and wide receiver, after years of wonder and worry, is a position of strength for this team once again. (That's some ol' bullshtein right there.)
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Cerevant

It is amazing what you can do with a few well placed bold tags...

QuoteThe Burning Question 

January 22, 2007
By DAVE SPADARO

What Does The Picture Look Like At WR?

The Eagles had a terrific year at the position in 2006 after a transition period in the post-Terrell Owens months. Reggie Brown grew up in his second season and, after some early ups and downs, had a fine sophomore year. A pair of rookie receivers, Hank Baskett and Jason Avant, shined for the most part when given the opportunities to make plays. Greg Lewis found his niche as a reliable and productive third-down receiver.

Donté Stallworth completed the picture in '06. He gave the Eagles an explosive presence down the field (imp. the picture was incomplete without him), and was a good blocker for the running game. Stallworth's speed certainly added a home-run threat in the passing game. Stallworth missed four games with a hamstring injury, which was a concern, and now his status as an unrestricted free agent to be is one of the off-season's most interesting stories to follow.

If Stallworth remains an Eagle, the team has a deep and varied group at the position. If Stallworth leaves in free agency (big IF) - and should he reach free agency he figures to be one of the more coveted players - the Eagles need Baskett and Avant to make dramatic increases in their roles for 2007.  Baskett started in Stallworth's absence and acquitted himself well, but he does not have the same down-the-field speed (Stallworth is a better option). Baskett showed he has enough speed on his two 80-plus-yard touchdown catches and runs, but his primary strengths are his big body, his outstanding hands and his ability to be a physical receiver.

Avant isn't a burner, either (can't count on Avant to step in), but he seemed to pick up the offense well. Avant is a sharp route runner, a tough and physical player and he has excellent hands. Avant had a tremendous career at Michigan and figures to make a solid leap forward in his second NFL season.

Lewis is likely to remain in a similar role (useful but unimpressive), regardless of Stallworth's status. Brown, a big-play maker throughout his second season, should only get better and seems prepared to be a go-to receiver in any offense.

Stallworth is the big question mark here (how are we going to survive without him) and the speculation will be relentless until his status is answered one way or another. Will he stay or will he go? Maybe, maybe not.  In the meantime (until Stallworth leaves), the Eagles have a lot to work with here, and wide receiver, after years of wonder and worry, is a position of strength for this team once again.
An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.

hunt

there's a zero percent chance of stallworth coming back...it's time to realize that & move on.

i'm hoping they draft a speedy wr who can also return kicks in one of the first 3 rounds...and i'm not talking about another bloom....i mean an actual football player.

lemonade was a popular drink and it still is

Cerevant

Please don't misunderstand - I was not putting "my" spin on the article, just noting how different the spin could be based on what parts you bold and what comments you make.
An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.

Feva

Quote from: Cerevant on January 22, 2007, 01:34:02 PM
It is amazing what you can do with a few well placed bold tags...


Right... so the point of the article was that the Eagles totally need Stallworth, right?  Totally.

Stallworth did more than "complete the picture".  He was easily the most dynamic WR on the team.  The WR's are a lot more questionable than they are incomplete without him.

Do you really think Stallworth's leaving is "a big IF" when Heckert has flat out said and everything else written on the subject says that they're going to let him hit FA?  "If" that happens, then we're relying on a 26 year old speedy WR in the prime of his career who's the cream of the crop in a terrible FA class to give the Eagles a "hometown discount" to stay.  Or half the league to back off of him because he missed 4 games this year.  Oh yeah, and his agent just happens to be the most money grubbing shark associated with pro football.

The point of this article is obviously to pump up the other guys to look like something they're not to fool people into thinking the Eagles won't miss Stallworth should he leave.  It's not about what points I bold.  It's about the intent of his article.
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PoopyfaceMcGee

I think the point is that Spads is typing a lot of words without saying much of anything, because he understands equally the value of Stallworth to the offense and the likelihood of the front office of not retaining his services.

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QuoteThe Burning Question 

January 22, 2007
By DAVE SPADARO

What Does The Picture Look Like At WR?

The Eagles had a terrific year at the position in 2006 after a transition period in the post-Terrell Owens months. Reggie Brown grew up in his second season and, after some early ups and downs, had a fine sophomore year. A pair of rookie receivers, Hank Baskett and Jason Avant, shined for the most part when given the opportunities to make plays. Greg Lewis found his niche as a reliable and productive third-down receiver.

Donté Stallworth completed the picture in '06. He gave the Eagles an explosive presence down the field, and was a good blocker for the running game. Stallworth's speed certainly added a home-run threat in the passing game. Stallworth missed four games with a hamstring injury, which was a concern, and now his status as an unrestricted free agent to be is one of the off-season's most interesting stories to follow.

If Stallworth remains an Eagle, the team has a deep and varied group at the position. If Stallworth leaves in free agency - and should he reach free agency he figures to be one of the more coveted players - the Eagles need Baskett and Avant to make dramatic increases in their roles for 2007. Baskett started in Stallworth's absence and acquitted himself well, but he does not have the same down-the-field speed. Baskett showed he has enough speed on his two 80-plus-yard touchdown catches and runs, but his primary strengths are his big body, his outstanding hands and his ability to be a physical receiver.

Avant isn't a burner, either, but he seemed to pick up the offense well. Avant is a sharp route runner, a tough and physical player and he has excellent hands. Avant had a tremendous career at Michigan and figures to make a solid leap forward in his second NFL season.

Lewis is likely to remain in a similar role, regardless of Stallworth's status. Brown, a big-play maker throughout his second season, should only get better and seems prepared to be a go-to receiver in any offense.

Stallworth is the big question mark here and the speculation will be relentless until his status is answered one way or another. Will he stay or will he go? Maybe, maybe not. In the meantime, the Eagles have a lot to work with here, and wide receiver, after years of wonder and worry, is a position of strength for this team once again.
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ice grillin you

#343
im gonna go with what andy said on the radio the other day....

"it was nice having him here"

"he did a good job for us"
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Mad-Lad

i think he's going with "Donte did a heckuva job for us"