2006 - 2007 Sixers Season Thread

Started by PhillyPhreak54, November 01, 2006, 03:56:01 AM

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PhillyPhreak54

QuoteNo no-trade contract? No problem for The Answer
Stein
By Marc Stein
ESPN.com
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What they're saying on the Allen Iverson grapevine: The Answer has let it be known that he doesn't want to play in Charlotte.

What they're also saying in front-office circles: Iverson's camp got word to Sacramento and Golden State that he's not in a rush to relocate to Northern California, either.

What I find myself saying whenever I hear such sentiments: Amazing, isn't it, how quickly some players scare teams off when pretty much none of them possess a no-trade clause?

The Bobcats, let's face it, would be skittish about trading for A.I. even if he welcomed the move, given owner Bob Johnson's obvious comfort level with a roster that doesn't pay a single player more than $5.5 million. Although he badly wants to fill up his building and ranks as one of the league's most outspoken owners regarding the struggles of small-market teams, Johnson's hesitancy to sanction an Iverson deal doesn't surprise anyone. You can safely surmise that the little man's knack for selling tickets doesn't stand out to the Bobs as much the $39.8 million left on his contract after this season and Iverson's hard-to-handle history.

But here's the thing.

Iverson doesn't possess the ultimate hammer. NBA front-office sources confirmed Tuesday that his contract does not contain a no-trade clause.

In fact, as far as I know, the Lakers' Kobe Bryant is the only NBA player who has one.

Why?

This simply isn't baseball, where no-trade clauses or partial no-trade clauses are routinely built into player contracts ... and where the famed 10-and-5 rule automatically enables veterans with 10 years of service time and five with a player's current team to veto trades.

In the NBA, only players with at least eight years of service time and four with the same team are eligible for a no-trade clause.

The problem?

Very few players get to that point with one team and then have the opportunity to negotiate a no-trade clause through free-agency.

Star players like Iverson, for starters, generally sign their first big-money deals well before their eighth season.

Star players like Iverson, furthermore, often sign extensions to those big deals ... and NBA extensions do not allow players to add major changes in contract terms, such as a no-trade clause. A player must enter free agency to change major terms in a contract.

That's how Bryant put himself in the rare position to negotiate a no-trade clause. He was a full-fledged unrestricted free agent in the summer of 2004 and, having just completed his eighth season and after flirting seriously with the Clippers, signed a new seven-year, $136 million contract with the Lakers which includes a no-trade provision.

Iverson?

Turns out he's apparently never been eligible for a no-trade clause, even though this is his 11th season with the same team. His four-year, $72.4 million extension with the Sixers, which began last season, operates under the same main terms -- without a no-trade clause, in other words -- as his previous contract, which he signed before he had eight years in the league.

The league, on top of that, now has the right to suspend players who refuse to report to their new teams after trades, following the Alonzo Mourning debacle in Toronto after the Nets swiped Vince Carter from the Raps in December 2004.

Yet the league's authority in such matters didn't stop the Bobs from quickly abandoning any thoughts of adding Iverson to their quartet of promising kiddies: Emeka Okafor, Adam Morrison, Raymond Felton and Sean May.

The Kings have likewise announced that they're no longer bidding for Iverson, even though they have a history of ignoring star players' initial resistance to Sacto (Chris Webber and Artest) and trading for them anyway.

Iverson, sources say, would welcome a move to either Minnesota or Boston, but the issues confronting the Wolves and Celtics haven't changed. The Wolves don't have a first-round pick to package with the young lead guard Philly covets (Villanova alumnus Randy Foye) and the Celts (so far) can't get Philly to take the daunting step of trading Iverson within its own division unless it includes Al Jefferson and/or Gerald Green in the deal. My ESPN The Magazine colleague Ric Bucher reported Tuesday night on SportsCenter that Iverson is open to an Indiana move as well, with the Pacers and Denver Nuggets -- presumably another team Iverson would sanction given the presence of Carmelo Anthony -- both increasing their interest Tuesday and both better-positioned than the Wolves or Celts to assemble a trade Philly likes.

All four, though, have one thing in common. All see their odds increase, no matter what above variables tell us, if Iverson can continue to dissuade the teams he doesn't like from making bids.

Without even having official trade-blocking power.

PhillyPhreak54

QuoteThe New York Daily News is reporting that a three-team deal involving the Bulls and Warriors may be a possibility for a trade of Allen Iverson.
The Warriors would possibly send power forward Troy Murphy or point guard Baron Davis to Chicago as part of a package of players, while the Sixers would get Ben Gordon. The Bulls reportedly don't want Iverson as they fear he and Scott Skiles would clash, which makes sense. Other Bulls mentioned going to Philly in a potential deal have been P.J. Brown and ex-Knick Michael Sweetney, each in the final year of his contract. Interestingly, Troy Murphy is not playing for the Warriors on Tuesday night, giving this rumor some extra intrigue.

PoopyfaceMcGee


BigEd76

Rumor #12938923223:  AI and Hunter to Golden State for Baron Davis, Andris Biedrins and a 3rd player

Sgt PSN

I really like Baron Davis when he's healthy.  But he's been around a while now and certainly not getting any younger.  I'd be interested in seeing what his remaining contract looks like and how it would affect the Sixers next year and beyond. 

ice grillin you

davis is locked up thru 08-09 at 13 mil a year
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: BigEd76 on December 13, 2006, 11:10:30 AM
Rumor #12938923223:  AI and Hunter to Golden State for Baron Davis, Andris Biedrins and a 3rd player

Awful.

hunt

Quote from: BigEd76 on December 13, 2006, 11:10:30 AM
Rumor #12938923223:  AI and Hunter to Golden State for Baron Davis, Andris Biedrins and a 3rd player

i heard the 3rd player would be ike diogu or possibly a pick instead....anyway, it's a good deal.  beidrins is a player.
lemonade was a popular drink and it still is

PoopyfaceMcGee

Baron Davis is kind of like AI, except less talented and made of glass.

hunt

Quote from: FFatPatt on December 13, 2006, 01:07:25 PM
Baron Davis is kind of like AI, except less talented and made of glass.

they're looking for a 3rd team to take baron...possibly the lakers in exchange for smush, mckie, & a pick.

and it's now baron & beidrins or baron, diogu, & a pick.
lemonade was a popular drink and it still is

PhillyPhreak54

Biedrins was the guy who they were rumored to be drafting when they took Igoudala. If Toronto hadn't taken Araujo at 8 and taken Iggy we would have ended up with Biedrins.

He's 7'0 and is playing decent this year.

I really wish it was Baron, Biedrins and a pick. Flip Baron to someone and get another pick.

BigEd76

#386
Biedrins and Ellis are 20 and 21 and both are free agents after next season.  I'm not sure why Golden State would give them up for AI....

phattymatty

Quote from: BigEd76 on December 13, 2006, 01:41:56 PM
Biedrins and Ellis are 20 and 21 and both are free agents after next season.  I'm not sure why Golden State would give them up for AI....

Sgt PSN


PoopyfaceMcGee

Sports Guy suckles Iverson

I can't say I disagree with much of anything in that article.