2006 - 2007 Sixers Season Thread

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QuoteWhere will Iverson be traded to?
By David Aldridge
INQUIRER STAFF WRITER
Well, we knew it would happen sooner or later, so now is as good a time as any.

We told you on draft night in June that Allen Iverson wouldn't make it through the season with the 76ers. And now, the fuse has been lit. It's just a matter of when it goes off, and we can all get on with our basketball lives.

Does it really matter if it's Iverson who's stoking the fire, as the New York Post reported yesterday, or if it's Billy King serving as the catalyst? Iverson's asked to be traded before, and King's tried to accommodate him before. Last time, it was King instigating trade talks and Iverson reacting.

Bottom line: We're back to where we've been a half dozen or so times in the last few years.

At least there's a potential market for Iverson, small as it may be. There is no interest anywhere in taking on the last 19 months and $43 million of Chris Webber's deal.

"No one's taking Webber," an Eastern Conference coach said yesterday.

So, Iverson. We're way, way past the point of equal value; this is a salvage operation from here on out. Where can King turn? Here's where he's likely placing calls:

1. Denver: This nearly happened in February, when the Sixers almost pulled the trigger on a deal that would have sent Iverson to the Nuggets for a package including Kenyon Martin. King denied that any talks with Denver got serious, blaming loose lips on the Nuggets.

Believe whomever you want.

But the Nuggets still have interest. With Martin shelved for the rest of the season, Carmelo Anthony is seeking a true second scoring option. Yes, J.R. Smith has been better than advertised, but George Karl, who's coached the likes of Gary Payton and Anthony Mason over the years, won't be intimidated by Iverson, and he is intrigued by playing his high-octane style with Iverson and Anthony flying up and down the court.

The Denver package would almost certainly include guard Andre Miller - whom the Sixers don't especially like, but desperation makes for strange conversions - and either of two veteran forwards, Eduardo Najera or Joe Smith. To make the deal work cap-wise, Philly would have to take a body or two from the pile of Julius Hodge, DerMarr Johnson or Jamal Sampson.

They're talking.

2. Boston: You all know how close things got around the draft, when the Sixers, Celtics and Jazz nearly pulled off a three-way deal that would have sent Iverson to Beantown, Carlos Boozer (and Boston's first-round pick) to Philly, and Wally Szczerbiak to the Jazz. Discussions have cooled considerably since then, with the Sixers still reluctant to move Iverson within the division and Utah certainly no longer taking calls about Boozer.

Without a third team, however, a deal with Boston is far less likely. Boston's not trading Paul Pierce, and the Sixers aren't much interested in Szczerbiak. The Celtics aren't wedded to all of their young players (Gerald Green and Delonte West are the current untouchables, with rookie Rajon Rondo an almost), but they no longer have contracts with enough loot to make a one-on-one deal possible.

That could change if Philly could coerce a team like, say, Minnesota to get involved along with Boston. (No, not for Kevin Garnett; think Ricky Davis and Mark Blount.)

They've talked. They'll probably talk again.

3. Indiana: The disappointing Pacers are looking to shake things up, and Larry Bird has always been an Iverson fan. The question, though, is whether Indiana, reeling from numerous public relations disasters involving its players, can bring A.I. to town. If they answer yes, they'd want to keep Jermaine O'Neal (otherwise, what's the point of the deal?), so the trade would have to involve point guard Jamaal Tinsley. The Sixers would certainly also ask for rebounding machine Jeff Foster. But would the Pacers also part with second-year forward Danny Granger or Marquis Daniels, the former Maverick?

Hear they're talking, but don't know how seriously.

4. Memphis: Any trade talks involving the Grizzlies have been on hold - at least that's what Jerry West has been saying - while the majority interest in the team was being pursued by former Duke player Brian Davis' group.

But it looks as if the Davis purchase may come a cropper, with the league taking the unusual step of publicly rebuking Davis last week for not providing all of the financial information the league needs to consider his bid.

If the faucet is eventually turned back on, the Grizzlies - 28th in the league in attendance through Thursday, at just more than 15,400 per game - desperately need someone who can fill FedEx Forum on a more regular basis.

5. Sacramento: A long shot, but if the Kings really are shopping Mike Bibby (not for Iverson, just shopping him), you have to give them a call.

6-30. Atlanta, Golden State, Indiana, blah, blah, blah: We don't see another player out there now, but it takes only one phone call to change that.

PoopyfaceMcGee

He mentioned Indiana both as #3 and as 6-30.  Fire him.

GET RAJON RONDO!

MDS

1. This all irrelevent considering the man behind the mess, Billy King, will be conducting the trade and subsequent rebuilding of the team. He is an idiot. He has no prayer of constructing a championship caliber team. So what does it matter?

2. None of what Aldridge said or what else has been rumored is better than simply waiting it out and letting Allen walk in 2 years. They are forced into doing that with Webber because he is useless and a contractiual albatross. Unless whatever mess of a contract they are getting in return for AI also expires within 2 years, then it's not worth it. Nobody theyre getting in return is a franchise player, so nobody is worth being packaged with a long term contract mess.

Basically, King farged the Sixers up big time. And most likely trading AI will just throw shtein on the shtein. This team is farged.
Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.

hunt

finally!  :yay

just wait until a1 is traded and all the crap he's pulled over the years starts leaking out to the media.  ;D  let's see if people still love him then.


good riddance, cancer.
lemonade was a popular drink and it still is

PhillyPhreak54

I hope he goes and wins a championship with KG in Minnesota.

Listening to Eskin during the PCs last night was bad. I think he had his wang hanging out right then and there.

hunt

i don't give a crap where he goes...as long as he's out of philly & no  longer ruining my favorite team with his selfishness.


lemonade was a popular drink and it still is

Rome


PhillyPhreak54

Quote from: hunt on December 09, 2006, 10:37:48 AM
i don't give a crap where he goes...as long as he's out of philly & no  longer ruining my favorite team with his selfishness.




I'm glad he'll be gone too so you haters have to find something else to piss and moan about.

Now we get to watch even worse basketball. And we'll see exactly how much subtracting him improves the team which many of y'all have claimed it would do over the years.

Dillen

For the record, Minnesota owes their 07 1st round pick to the Clippers and their 08 pick to the Celtics.

ice grillin you

Too bad it happened five years too late.

ha...they were in the finals five years ago




i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Rome

I think you're missing the point, Phreak.

No one expects the Sixers to get better immediately without Iverson.  You can't remove a guy averaging 30 points a night from an awful basketball team and make them better.  It just won't happen.

HOWEVER - what his removal will do is force the Sixers to begin to rebuild a franchise that has sunk to its lowest level in years.  The Sixers were never going to win anything with Iverson there.  Sure, the pieces they've added to the mix haven't worked but how many times are you going to try to fix something that has no hope of ever working?

I think Iverson being traded is nothing but a small step in the rebuilding process.  The first move they should make before trading him is firing Billy King and getting a competent executive in there to oversee the process.  If Iverson has to sit for a week or a month or whatever, who cares?  The Sixers are awful anyway and his presence or lack thereof isn't going to make a difference one way or another.

Step 1 - Fire King.

Step 2 - Hire a competent GM.

Step 3 - Trade Iverson - Get what you can for him.  You know it's not gonna be even so just do the best you can.


It's not a pleasant prospect but it is what it is and it should have begun years ago.

hunt

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 09, 2006, 10:47:12 AM
Quote from: hunt on December 09, 2006, 10:37:48 AM
i don't give a crap where he goes...as long as he's out of philly & no  longer ruining my favorite team with his selfishness.




I'm glad he'll be gone too so you haters have to find something else to piss and moan about.

Now we get to watch even worse basketball. And we'll see exactly how much subtracting him improves the team which many of y'all have claimed it would do over the years.

they're 5-12 WITH iverson.  they suck now & they will suck after they trade him.  nobody said they'd immediately improve by trading him so don't waste your time with that line of crap.

5-12.
lemonade was a popular drink and it still is

ice grillin you

haters hate....thats how they do

which is what makes your opinions null and void

you wanted iverson gone when they made the finals and you want him gone now...you just dont like iverson...which is cool....but please dont speak on real basketball related matters when it comes to him...especially magic fans




i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Rome

#283
I have every right to express my opinion.  If you disagree with it, that's fine.  But save the tough guy "you're not welcome because you're a Magic fan" bullshtein for someone who gives a damn, IGY.

bowzer

Trading Iverson puts us one step closer to getting Oden, Durant, or the kid from UNC ;)