Time to look forward to the draft again...

[Feva]

whats scary is that other than andrews all the OL and DL theyve drafted cant really play

so do you start over now and draft more lineman to replace the ones you already drafted

i don't know if i'd say that for the oline, but if you looked at this team, not knowing their drafting history of the past 2 years, you'd probably rate DT as a top priority.  then, someone would tell you that they've taken a DT in the 1st round the past two years, and you'd piss yourself laughing.

Y'know... all year I've been watching Alan Branch dominate at DT at Michigan and thinking how great it'd be to have him in an Eagles uni, but then I realize that the Eagles have spent their last 2 1st rounders on a DT and it's still one of the biggest weaknesses on the team... I figure, why waste the guy's career by drafting him and putting him on this D-line?

[General_Failure]

I can't imagine why anyone is even thinking about the offensive line right now. Talk about the least of this team's problems...

Have you paid any attention to this team in the last 8 years? Checked out the draft history, maybe?

[Munson]

I can't imagine why anyone is even thinking about the offensive line right now. Talk about the least of this team's problems...

Have you paid any attention to this team in the last 8 years? Checked out the draft history, maybe?

I think he means the people of this MB. I'm sure he knows Andy Reid and Co. are 50/50 on what thier 1st round draft strategy will be....50% chance of taking an OL, 50% chance of taking a DL. Woo. farging. Hoo.

[General_Failure]

The people here know what's coming up. Everyone's fooling themselves about the team in one area or another, but for the most part we're conditioned to expect the lineman in the first round.

[hunt]

FYI, here's the defensive guys that have appeared in the 10-20 range of various mocks:

Alan Branch (Michigan DT)
Quinn Pitcock (Ohio State DT)
Paul Posluszny (Penn State LB)
Buster Davis (Florida State LB)
Patrick Willis (Mississippi LB)
LaMarr Woodley (Michigan DE/LB)
LaRon Landry (LSU S)
Brandon Meriweather (Miami S)
Aaron Rouse (Virginia Tech S)
Michael Griffin (Texas S)
Leon Hall (Michigan CB)
Marcus McCauley (Fresno State CB)
Daymeion Hughes (California CB)
Quentin Moses (Georgia DE)

could you please sort the list by color?


thanks.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

LaMarr Woodley is good.

[BigEd76]

could you please sort the list by color?

thanks.

Pitcock and Poz are white, which according to igy rule #1, makes them awful in the NFL...

[Quasimoto]

Urlacher had a black grandmother somewhere down his family tree.  Thats why he is so good.

[Drunkmasterflex]

LaMarr Woodley is good.

Yes, yes he is.

[PhillyandBCEagles]

LaMarr Woodley is good.

Haha.  Wood.

[SunMo]

from Domowitch's article today:

Sometimes you can see something more clearly from a distance than from up close, though. So I decided to seek an outside opinion. Called a respected AFC personnel man I've known for more than 20 years. He is well-versed on the Eagles because they are one of 12 teams he is responsible for breaking down and evaluating. He has watched hours of tape on them and seen several of their games in person.

I asked him to put himself in general manager Tom Heckert's seat and tell me what he sees - and doesn't see - when he looks at the Eagles' roster.

Some of his conclusions:

• The offense is, for the most part, fine. Re-sign Donté Stallworth. Add another No. 3-type wideout. Add another running back, preferably a bigger short-yardage/goal-line-type guy to rotate with Brian Westbrook.

Re-sign Jeff Garcia as backup insurance for Donovan McNabb in case he isn't ready to go by next September or gets hurt again. Then call it a day.

• The most pressing problem defensively isn't the front four or even the linebackers. It's the secondary. Cornerback and safety need to be high priorities in both free agency and the draft. Lito Sheppard is the only "A" cornerback they have, and his size (5-10) is a problem against the league's taller wide receivers. Sheldon Brown can't tackle and has regressed as a cover man. Free safety Brian Dawkins is on the downside of his career and has a year, maybe 2, left as a starter. Mike Lewis isn't worth re-signing and his replacement, Sean Considine, will never be anything more than a good special-teams player.

• Put Dhani Jones and Matt McCoy on the next flight out of Philadelphia. Neither can play. Chris Gocong, the Eagles' 2005 third-round pick, should be able to step in and start in Jones' strongside spot next season, assuming his neck injury isn't a recurring problem. Omar Gaither is good enough to replace McCoy on the weakside. But the Eagles need to draft an eventual replacement for middle linebacker Jeremiah Trotter. He's strictly an inside run-stopper with no more than 2 semiproductive years left. If the Eagles are planning to eventually move Gaither into Trotter's spot, then they need to bring in a weakside linebacker. Shawn Barber is perfect in the nickel role he's in. His knees wouldn't hold up to an every-down pounding.

• Eagles fans need to get off Brodrick Bunkley's case. Yes, he needed to be productive as a rookie. But that's yesterday's news. Bottom line: He's still going to be a very good player.

• The Eagles weren't idiots in giving defensive tackle Mike Patterson a contract extension so soon. Patterson is a good player who is only going to get better. He and Bunkley will give the Eagles a solid tackle tandem for years. Darwin Walker is too inconsistent. Sam Rayburn showed promise his first couple of years but hasn't done much since. One of the Eagles' free-agency priorities should be a 325-pound, sun-blocking defensive tackle to back up Patterson and Bunkley and stop the bleeding when teams start gashing them with the run.

• The Eagles will never get their money's worth from Jevon Kearse or Darren Howard. They overrated the abilities of both. The emergence of '05 fifth-round pick Trent Cole offsets that a little bit, but not enough. Once Bunkley starts making a contribution inside, that should make the ends a little more productive. They're still going to need to add another defensive end in the offseason, though, because Juqua Thomas is going to attract interest from a number of 3-4 teams that like him as a pass-rushing linebacker. Jerome McDougle needs to be on the same flight with Jones and McCoy.




The Eagles like Stallworth. A lot. They haven't attempted to re-sign him yet because they wanted to see if he could stay healthy for more than a couple of games before they throw a lot of money at him.

In the six games he's been at or close to 100 percent physically this season, he has 27 receptions and four touchdowns and is averaging 20.6 yards per catch. The problem is, the more productive he is in the remaining games, the more free-agent suitors he will have and the larger his price tag will get.

But the AFC personnel man believes re-signing him is an absolute must for the Eagles. "If Stallworth's out there, it's not a bad skill group," he said. "But they need him - or somebody like him - to push [Reggie] Brown. Because Brown is no better than a No. 2. And they need to add another [No. 3] receiver. God bless Hank Baskett. He's a nice story. But he is who he is. L.J. Smith has the ability to be in the top tier of tight ends in the league, but he has to become more consistent."

He believes it's mandatory that the Eagles bring in a bigger running back to back up Westbrook. Like Baskett, Correll Buckhalter is a nice, heartwarming story, and there's a place for him in a three-back rotation.

But the personnel man feels the Eagles need a pile-mover.

"They need another runner," he said. "They really don't have another runner besides Westbrook right now. They have a bunch of other guys back there, but none of them can play.

"I thought they were going to get T.J. Duckett this summer. That would have been a good combination. He was productive in Atlanta down near the goal line. Had 26 or something touchdowns in 3 years. I think they need that."

The scout likes the Eagles' offensive line. Thinks right guard Shawn Andrews and center Jamaal Jackson are outstanding young players. Thinks 33-year-old right tackle Jon Runyan still is playing at a very high level and has another 2 or 3 good years left. Thinks rookie second-rounder Winston Justice, who has been inactive for all 12 games, was a good pick who will make a fine left-tackle replacement for William Thomas, perhaps as soon as next year. Thinks rookie fourth-rounder Max Jean-Gilles was another good pick who probably will replace Todd Herremans at left guard next season.

"Their offensive line is going to be very good for the foreseeable future," he said. "I went back and looked at preseason tape of Justice and Gilles and both of them are going to be pretty good. Justice isn't playing because they ended up getting probably better play out of Thomas than they expected. So there's been no need to play him yet. They're getting ripped because he's a second-round pick and isn't playing. But so what? Three years from now, they'll be going, 'Hey, that was a pretty good pick.' "

Defensively, the scout has concerns about the Eagles' secondary. Big concerns.

"They've got some major issues in the secondary," he said. "That's where I think the problem is going to be in the next couple of years. Lito is a pretty good corner, but his size hurts him. Brown is a 'B' corner at best. Dawkins is definitely on the downside, and they don't have another safety. Other than Sheppard, Dawkins right now might be the best guy in their secondary. And that's not good. At this stage of his career, you want him to be the fourth best guy.

"They're going to have to draft a corner high next year. I don't think they'll be willing to spend a lot of money on one in free agency because that's one of those positions that scares you [in free agency]. You don't know what you're getting."

The scout thinks the Eagles also need to find two new safeties, one to eventually replace Dawkins and another to be their long-term strong safety. He doesn't think Sean Considine is the answer at either.

"I thought I was going to like Considine," he said. "Because he was tackling on special teams when he was just doing that.

But now that he's playing [on defense], he's getting exposed. He's just a guy."

Up front, the Eagles have drawn heavy criticism for Bunkley's failure to contribute this season and for signing Patterson, their '05 No. 1 pick, to a long-term extension.

"Patterson is as strong as [bleep]," the AFC personnel guy said. "And Bunkley's going to be fine. Rookie defensive linemen, particularly tackles, take time. People want these guys to come in here and be Warren Sapp from day one. It doesn't happen. People have to be patient with guys like that."

The scout feels the Eagles' biggest problem at the defensive-end position right now is the small contribution they're getting from Howard, who was signed as a free agent last offseason.

"They're just not getting very good play from him right now," he said. "That's the one that's hurt them a little bit up front. He's just not making a lot of plays. He always plays hard, but sometimes, you just don't know.

"I mean, Jevon isn't what they thought they were going to get when they got him, either. That's the problem with signing these free agents. I'd much rather pay my own guys, and the Eagles have done that. But if you guess wrong a couple of times - like they did with McDougle, like they did with McCoy and some of other linebackers they've drafted - then you've got to step out of the box and take a chance on free agents. And a lot of times, that's a bigger crapshoot than the draft."

[PhillyPhreak54]

Domo's stuff is always a good read.

[ice grillin you]

yeah hes really good...les bowen has been off the charts good this year...he is really coming into his own as a football writer...his follow up observations and stats after games are excellent

[PhillyPhreak54]

Les got rid of the "golly gee" leave it to beaver type attitude he had before and is more critical now. He's not hatin' like Eckel but he isn't as fluff as he was before.

Domowitch and Reuben Frank are the best in this area though.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

That article is both reassuring and disturbing.  Great read.