Positives amidst all the negativity

[General_Failure]

That's all very well and good, but it really says nothing. Even the worst team in the NFL has guys that make tackles. That doesn't mean they didn't give up 500 points for the season and 6000 yards.

[PhillyPhreak54]

the reason they bring Considine in at safety and move Dawk to linebacker in passing downs is because Dawk can't get there on the blitz from the safety position anymore.  it also helps him out when covering backs or tight ends to be closer to the line.

Not really.

He's there because he is one of the best blitzers and when he's down in the box as a LB it forces an offense to have to look for him. Since he moves around it confuses the blocking schemes and either frees Dawk up or someone else.

[Wingspan]

You keep saying his play has fallen off but you never explain in what aspect. He can still cover pretty much the entire field. He is great in run support, he still is as hard a hitter as he ever was, he still makes smart decisions.

So if you are going to say he isn't what he was 3 or 4 years ago, then follow that up with what he can't do anymore, because I told you multiple times what he still does as well as he has ever done.

it's baffling how the eagles have ever given up 1 point.

[SunMo]

Not really.

He's there because he is one of the best blitzers and when he's down in the box as a LB it forces an offense to have to look for him. Since he moves around it confuses the blocking schemes and either frees Dawk up or someone else.

well if he could still get there from the Safety position, they would keep him there where he was effective. 

[Munson]

That's all very well and good, but it really says nothing. Even the worst team in the NFL has guys that make tackles. That doesn't mean they didn't give up 500 points for the season and 6000 yards.

But not every team has a FS getting 3-4 sacks a year, 3-4 INTs, and a guy who has averaged 4 FF a yaer for hte last three years.

The point being that Brian Dawkins is probably the least to blame for the defensive problems, and he is still playing at a very high level.

[Feva]

Who blamed Dawkins?

[Munson]

I guess I should have said we should probably forget the bitching about Dawkins and concentrate on the guys who are playing badly. I'm just saying that Dawkins, besides maybe losing a half a step of speed, is still playing and producing about the same as he has been his whole career. No one has been able to say either way why they think he's "losing it" or not, but I just wanted to put some numbers out there to help show why I think he isn't exactly "losing it" yet.

[rjs246]

Did he used to dominate that side of the ball and force other teams to account for him on every play? Yes.

Is Dawkins playing badly? No. Is dawkins the reason for the defense's woes? No. Is Dawkins dominating the defensive side of the ball now like he used to? No.


There. Can you all farging shut up now?

[Sgt PSN]

Did he used to dominate that side of the ball and force other teams to account for him on every play? Yes.

Is Dawkins playing badly? No. Is dawkins the reason for the defense's woes? No. Is Dawkins dominating the defensive side of the ball now like he used to? No.


There. Can you all farging shut up now?

No. 

[Eaglez]

Ideally, you don't want many tackles collectively as a team. Less tackles means less plays which in turn means that your defense isn't on the field as much and hence the opposing team's offense isn't chewing up time and putting points on the board.

I guess having a few tackles could mean that your defense sucks too because they give up a ton of big plays and quick scores. It's just one of those pardoxes.

Eh, who the farg cares.

It's clear Dawkins isn't to blame. Whatever loss in his athletic ability is easily compensated in his leadership skills. However, it makes you wonder what's wrong with everyone else on the defensive side. If Dawk can't fire you up, then I don't know who can. It could be that they just plain ol' suck.

[MadMarchHare]

Didn't Trotter have over a hundred tackles one year in Washington, mostly from behind?

[General_Failure]

Didn't Trotter have over a hundred tackles every year, mostly from behind?

Yes.

[QB Eagles]

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD LOCK THIS THREAD

[Feva]

farg positivity.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Worst thread ever.