06/07 Phillies Offseason Thread

[MDS]

but the outfield defense is gonna be really good

Rowand, Victorino, Burrell. Burrell sucks but the other two are class.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

<mpmcbrokenrecord>

Rowand isn't even that good!  People just think so because he's willing to give up his body!  I'd rather have two Burrells in the outfield than have Aaron Rowand!  Let me break out some OPS stats while we're chatting...

</mpmcburrellsknobslobber>

[ice grillin you]

Rowand, Victorino, Burrell. Burrell sucks but the other two are class.

burrell is an abomination

the other two have awful arms and guys will run like slaves on them


forget fielding tho how can the phillies go into next year with that as a starting outfield...im still not convinced victorino is an everyday player....rowand is eh and we all know about burrell...could be the worst outfield in the majors

[Eagles_Legendz]

Not true.  Rowand's arm is subpar, but Victorino's arm is actually a strength of his, and one that is surprising do to his small stature.

[BigEd76]

Supposedly this Warden guy goes by the name "Jim Ed" and he's a 6'7" sidewinder...

[mpmcgraw]

I'm not exactly shocked by this, well maybe a little bit, but the posters on PhilliesPhans are blasting this move. Why on earth they are ripping getting a 200IP a year starter for a brain dead washout prospect and a kid who may or may not be good and only put up so-so numbers in AA is mind boggling.

Because they love to overrate prospects on that site than throw a guy like Hamels in your face and say "that is why you don't trade prospects" even though Gonzalez is nowhere near the talent Hamels is.

Umm, no they dont.  And if you people actually had the attention span to read more than three pages it seems that there is no general consensus on the trade and if there is one it is pretty much "well let's wait and see how this trade turn outs'. 

I dont like this deal right now unless we ink Garcia for a few more years. 

[mpmcgraw]

PS:  The reasonable posters there acknowledge that more prospects than not will not pan out.

But it is common sense that the more quality prospects you have the better the chance that you will get a few studs.   

[ice grillin you]

nerds dont have common sense and thats what baseball boards are made of

[mpmcgraw]

nerds dont have common sense and thats what baseball boards are made of

You have 11,000 posts on a message board, you are a nerd.  Are you an idiot or just in denial?

And philaphans.com is also a baseball board and they pretty much share your general opinions (as does WIP).  Do they have no common sense too?

[SunMo]

philaphans.com is ok


philliesphans is a bunch of pompus asses

[SD_Eagle5]

I'm not exactly shocked by this, well maybe a little bit, but the posters on PhilliesPhans are blasting this move. Why on earth they are ripping getting a 200IP a year starter for a brain dead washout prospect and a kid who may or may not be good and only put up so-so numbers in AA is mind boggling.

Because they love to overrate prospects on that site than throw a guy like Hamels in your face and say "that is why you don't trade prospects" even though Gonzalez is nowhere near the talent Hamels is.

Umm, no they dont.  And if you people actually had the attention span to read more than three pages it seems that there is no general consensus on the trade and if there is one it is pretty much "well let's wait and see how this trade turn outs'. 

I dont like this deal right now unless we ink Garcia for a few more years. 

Are you kidding me? Should I start quoting the negativity of the trade in this thread to prove a point? It's more than the first 3 pages, %50-75 of the thread is fans who have a man crush on Gio even though they've never seen him pitch. I wasn't in favor of giving him up instead of Rowand either but the arguments on that thread are absurd. There are many pro-Floyd posts too which is laughable since he has bust written all over him.

[ice grillin you]

Do they have no common sense too?

NO....people who talk about OPS do not have common sense

[mpmcgraw]

philliesphans is a bunch of pompus asses

Yes, definitely. 

But, philaphans is full of posters that like to challenge you to a fight when you disagree with them and they have nothing to back their argument.

[mpmcgraw]

Are you kidding me? Should I start quoting the negativity of the trade in this thread to prove a point? It's more than the first 3 pages, %50-75 of the thread is fans who have a man crush on Gio even though they've never seen him pitch. I wasn't in favor of giving him up instead of Rowand either but the arguments on that thread are absurd. There are many pro-Floyd posts too which is laughable since he has bust written all over him.

They arent overrating Gonzalez the guy is much less than a sure thing to be a solid major league pitcher, they are responding to trading nothing but prospects for a major league pitcher which hasnt happened since Wagner after the GM gave up on 07 no less than 5 months ago.

The opinions even out as the thread goes on.

There was a thread before the trade and the majority said trade Floyd while you can. 

[SunMo]

philliesphans is a bunch of pompus asses

Yes, definitely. 

But, philaphans is full of posters that like to challenge you to a fight when you disagree with them and they have nothing to back their argument.

yeah...this thread is probably a happy medium between the two.