1500 add'l tickets available for every home game

[Sgt PSN]

[PhillyPhreak54]

While you were away doing this... the Eagles just scalped 250 more SRO tickets away from you.  Way to be.

Dude, buy a vowel.

Pat Sajak?

[Dillen]

Good job, Dave Davies. You should kill your parents for giving you the first name Dave though. The whole first name that sounds like a last name thing is not good. John Johnson, Jack Jackson, William Williams and Dave Davies.

I know someone named Patty Patterson.



Sarge, you got owned.



ttlabtoof, I heard the Eagles were hiring Mike Tice.

[Feva]

While you were away doing this... the Eagles just scalped 250 more SRO tickets away from you.  Way to be.

Dude, buy a vowel.  You have no idea what you are talking about.  But I suspect you already know that.

WTF are you talking about?  I've never played Family Feud in my whole life.

[General_Failure]

No, he's talking about The Price Is Right. Stupid chat roomers.

[Feva]

Oh yeah!  The Price is right with Wink Martindale!

[ttllabtoof]

Good job, Dave Davies. You should kill your parents for giving you the first name Dave though. The whole first name that sounds like a last name thing is not good. John Johnson, Jack Jackson, William Williams and Dave Davies.

And stop saying shteinhead so much. Makes you sound like a 5th grader.

And for the record - I am not oblivious to what is going on. I see what you see. I also see that many, many other NFL teams do the same thing.

Good luck in your crusade. Maybe you should call WIP some more. Cry to your boy Angelo. Keep on hanging out in large groups of one, bro. I envy your life.

Yea, like I believe you read both of those articles in under two hours (and comprehended them). 

Which other NFL teams make up that "many, many" that you used.  Could you be more vague?

[General_Failure]

Maybe.

[PhillyPhreak54]

Oooh...a literacy joke! You got me good!

PFT.com had a list of teams awhile back that showed thier affiliations to sites like Razorgator and StubHub. Go do some research, dickbag.

[PhillyPhreak54]

From PFT.com:

TEAM INVOLVEMENT WITH SCALPING CONTINUES

Last month, there was a hue and cry in the city of steak and cheese regarding the circumstances surrounding the sale of single-game tickets.  Eagles' seats were available at 10:00 a.m. on June 15, and completely gone within seconds.

Meanwhile, the team's offical web site reminded fans that plenty of marked-up tickets were available through RazorGator.com, including plenty of seats for T.O.'s October return to Philly as a member of the Cowboys.

On Saturday, the Titans sold out most of their single-game seats.  But a quick series of clicks on the team's web site leads to Ticketmaster's "ticketexchange" program, which allows seats bought through Tickermaster to be re-sold at a markup.

Though the Ticketmaster program doesn't yet appear to be a vehicle for scalpers (indeed, an October visit to Tennessee from the Cowboys has no tickets available through the "ticketexchange" device), the potential is there -- and the connection to the Titans is obvious.

Also, the Baltimore Ravens recently announced a corporate sponsorship with TicketsNow, which will become the team's "exclusive online secondary ticket marketplace," a fancy term for "scalping shack."

The Washington taterskins arguably provide the most ironic example of organized scalping.  Last year, the team revoked the season tickets of certain folks who were selling their seats on the Internet.  But as a reader pointed out to us, there's a link on the taterskins' official site to StubHub.com, which leads directly to a page that currently allows fans to buy, among other things, someone else's season tickets for up to $10,000.

At the top of the page appears the following statement:  "StubHub is the Official Ticket Marketplace of the Washington taterskins."

Other teams allowing folks who can't get tickets through the box office to buy them from a secondary source via simple navigation of the team's official web site include the Seahawks (who partner with RazorGator.com), the Saints (Ticketmaster), the Falcons (StubHub.com), the Giants (Ticketmaster), the Bills (Ticketmaster), the Patriots (Ticketmaster), who as an inducement to scalp state that the seller won't be responsible for the conduct of the buyer, the Jets (Ticketmaster), the Bengals (StubHub), the Browns (Ticketmaster), the Texans (StubHub), the Colts (StubHub), the Chargers (StubHub).

Teams that sell seats through Ticketmaster, but whose web sites don't make direct or indirect reference to the "ticketexchange" feature, include the Rams, 49ers, Cardinals, Bucs, Lions,  Vikings, Panthers, Broncos, Chiefs.

None of the teams listed above are breaking the law or violating any apparent league policies by accepting sponsorship money from these companies.  (Whether the companies selling the tickets are violating local scalping laws is a different issue.)  But to the extent that RazorGator or TicketsNow or StubHub or Ticketmaster are paying NFL franchises for the privilege of being the "official secondary marketplace", the money received by the teams indirectly is coming from transactions in which fans are paying more than face value for seats.

It's really no different than the dude with the laminated "I Need Tickets" sign paying the home team for the right to be the official scalper for the south end of the east parking lot.  The team isn't directly involved in the scalping, but is profiting from the fact that the scalping is occurring.

Still, since no one has made a stink about these arguably unseemly relationships, they have blossomed and are by all appearances flourishing.

Our take?  On one hand, folks have a right to run their businesses any way they see fit, within the parameters of the law.  Also, scalping is a fact of life.  Whenever there are events with more interest than available seats, someone will pay more than the face value of the ticket.

But when the entity that makes the initial sale of the ticket at face value is paid to promote entities through which those same tickets can be purchased at an even higher price, the process risks taking on a "feel" that the image-obsessed NFL ordinarily would try to avoid.

We're not quite sure where the line is on this issue, but we think that several of the NFL's franchises are on the wrong side of it, and we hope that someone (perhaps the next Commissioner) will give strong consideration to creating guidelines aimed at keeping teams from getting too deep into the sack with these high-tech scalpers.

[ttllabtoof]

From PFT.com:

TEAM INVOLVEMENT WITH SCALPING CONTINUES

Last month, there was a hue and cry in the city of steak and cheese regarding the circumstances surrounding the sale of single-game tickets.  Eagles' seats were available at 10:00 a.m. on June 15, and completely gone within seconds......

If you are going to bold things up, you missed the most important items in that article.  Unless you are a fan of all of those other teams, which I am not.  The obvious downside of such a policy we will see in the stadium this weekend.  LOTS OF GIANTS FANS IN OUR STADIUM.  The Eagles have made it easy for other teams fans to invade our stadium thru their own greed. 

And since you did manage to find a "normal thinking" opinion, not on this message board, it would seem to vindicate the stance I have had from the get go.  The Eagles are wrong and it should be stopped.

End of story.
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But to the extent that RazorGator or TicketsNow or StubHub or Ticketmaster are paying NFL franchises for the privilege of being the "official secondary marketplace", the money received by the teams indirectly is coming from transactions in which fans are paying more than face value for seats.

It's really no different than the dude with the laminated "I Need Tickets" sign paying the home team for the right to be the official scalper for the south end of the east parking lot.  The team isn't directly involved in the scalping, but is profiting from the fact that the scalping is occurring.

Still, since no one has made a stink about these arguably unseemly relationships, they have blossomed and are by all appearances flourishing.

Our take?  On one hand, folks have a right to run their businesses any way they see fit, within the parameters of the law.  Also, scalping is a fact of life.  Whenever there are events with more interest than available seats, someone will pay more than the face value of the ticket.

But when the entity that makes the initial sale of the ticket at face value is paid to promote entities through which those same tickets can be purchased at an even higher price, the process risks taking on a "feel" that the image-obsessed NFL ordinarily would try to avoid.

We're not quite sure where the line is on this issue, but we think that several of the NFL's franchises are on the wrong side of it, and we hope that someone (perhaps the next Commissioner) will give strong consideration to creating guidelines aimed at keeping teams from getting too deep into the sack with these high-tech scalpers.

[ttllabtoof]

Oooh...a literacy joke! You got me good!

PFT.com had a list of teams awhile back that showed thier affiliations to sites like Razorgator and StubHub. Go do some research, dickbag.

You didn't even know the Daily News article came out, douche bag.  do your own research.  "Many, many" to you is 8 or 10?  Does TicketMaster count as a reseller?

[Diomedes]

I rather like this cat ttllabtoof.

Do you ever post on subjects NOT about this?  Tell me, what do you think about the smoking ban in Philly?  Or abortion.  Yes, yes..tell us.

[Feva]

Yes... when his mother was pregnant with him, she should have been smoking her ass off and if that didn't work, then yes... she should have just gone ahead and had his dumb ass vaccumed.

[ttllabtoof]

I rather like this cat ttllabtoof.

Do you ever post on subjects NOT about this?  Tell me, what do you think about the smoking ban in Philly?  Or abortion.  Yes, yes..tell us.

Abortion.  A woman should decide anything that has to do with her body.  End of story.

Smoking ban in Philly is a joke.  NJ screwed the entire state (with the exception of the casino big wigs).  The leaders in Philadelphia have no idea how much business they will lose to all of those bars just outside city limits.  Ever go to a smoke free strip club?  Ever shoot pool and have to stop the game to go outside in the rain or snow.

I feel very badly for all of the bar/restaurant owners who have no choice on what people do in their business.  I know I won't be going to Philly for any nights out once the smoking ban hits just like I have not gone to any NJ bars since the smoking ban went into effect.  Conshy, Ambler, Ardmore here I come.