Positional Depth

Started by rjs246, August 18, 2006, 04:13:51 PM

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Quote from: ice grillin you on August 18, 2006, 09:17:36 PM
a lot of it is the eagles drafts have been weak...they seem to be able to score a good pick here or there who starts or plays a lot for the team....but the rest of the picks are garbage...theres no in between...and its those in between players that make up your 2nd and third stringers

much of it is the eagles insistence on getting 'good guys' instead of athletes

musa smith vs reno mahe
devard darling vs matt ware
walter vs garcia

ect...

That trend seems to have changed the last two seasons they seem to be getting some good depth from those drafts.
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altho they have not been very good im not killing their drafts....and in not even complaining about a lack of depth they because as i said depth is overrated...i was more talking to the people who are unhappy with the 2nd and 3rd teamers
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PoopyfaceMcGee

A lot of these issues could just be smoke and others could be bonafide fire.  It's really hard to judge based on the pre-season for many, many reasons... especially the defense.

I seriously think RB is the position with the worst depth, and it's not even close.  The tailback AND fullback positions are horrendous as a whole.  Anyone owning Moats stock is hoping it rebounds after a huge crash.  Perry could be toast.  Buckhalter, who should have been a no-brainer cut, looks like the 2nd best RB on the team.

Yuck.

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A lot of these issues could just be smoke and others could be bonafide fire.  It's really hard to judge based on the pre-season for many, many reasons... especially the defense.

this is true and i dont know about you but nothing ive seen in the preseason has positively or negatively changed my outlook on the team...so far its been as expected imo


I seriously think RB is the position with the worst depth, and it's not even close.  The tailback AND fullback positions are horrendous as a whole.  Anyone owning Moats stock is hoping it rebounds after a huge crash.  Perry could be toast.  Buckhalter, who should have been a no-brainer cut, looks like the 2nd best RB on the team.

the depth at rb is worse because westbrook is so much better than everyone else....but the wr position is far worse off...at least at the rb position a player can be elevated by the offensive line....put an average rb behind a good line and he automatically be comes better...at wr its you vs the secondary and if you cant get open you cant get open...and thats what was most scary about the raven game...mcnabb had ample time and still no one could create space
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MadMarchHare

I think the real correlation here is draft ability. 

They've done pretty well drafting lineman, DBs.
They've done poorly with WRs and LBs, which explains the depth.
The only place this correlation fails is at RB.  But that's an aberration, because they clearly don't give a shtein.
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rjs246

Quote from: MadMarchHare on August 21, 2006, 09:47:49 AM
I think the real correlation here is draft ability.

They've done pretty well drafting lineman, DBs.
They've done poorly with WRs and LBs, which explains the depth.
The only place this correlation fails is at RB. But that's an aberration, because they clearly don't give a shtein.

I agree on all points. What I don't understand is how they can be so spot on at scouting certina positions and so godawful at others. I also don't understand how they can repeatedly miss the mark on the same positions and not try to make up for it through free agency. But whatever, that isn't anything new.
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The trend is strong enough, it can't be by chance.  They just are incapable of drafting anyone worth a shtein at LB or WR.  Hopefully Brown breaks the trend.  Avant too.  And McCoy.
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Quote from: MadMarchHare on August 21, 2006, 01:41:54 PM
The trend is strong enough, it can't be by chance. They just are incapable of drafting anyone worth a shtein at LB or WR. Hopefully Brown breaks the trend. Avant too. And McCoy.

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pinoyboy2pt0

I wonder what position we draft next year in the top 2 rounds.  I guess a lot of that depends on the salary structure M. Lew wants (for some reason I think he's going to test UFA) and how well the backup S's play.  Considine has shown me jack in pre-season games.  Ware is here and there and Mikell ain't bad, but not great. 

We won't draft a qb, rb, ol (?) in the top 2.  TE/WR maybe on O and then do we really have any needs for D for top two rounds besides possibly S?  Our depth seems pretty good there.
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Quote from: pinoyboy2pt0 on August 21, 2006, 02:43:30 PM
I wonder what position we draft next year in the top 2 rounds. I guess a lot of that depends on the salary structure M. Lew wants (for some reason I think he's going to test UFA) and how well the backup S's play. Considine has shown me jack in pre-season games. Ware is here and there and Mikell ain't bad, but not great.

We won't draft a qb, rb, ol (?) in the top 2. TE/WR maybe on O and then do we really have any needs for D for top two rounds besides possibly S? Our depth seems pretty good there.

I would put a chunk of money down to say the Birds would take a offensive lineman with their first or second pick.
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Yeah, probably...wouldn't surprise me if our first two rounds go RT, LG.
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Quote from: pinoyboy2pt0 on August 21, 2006, 02:52:37 PM
Yeah, probably...wouldn't surprise me if our first two rounds go RT, LG.
That wouldnt make any sense at all to me. What's Herremans doing then?

pinoyboy2pt0

Playing LG.  :)  Well, the LG was kinda a joke.  Just saying it wouldn't surprise me if we did.  If there's a "Shawn Andrews" type available for our LG spot, I wouldn't be shocked.  I really wonder how Hank will fit in there...does he really have a chance working the season with the 1's or is that spot locked up to the todd?
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