Positional Depth

Started by rjs246, August 18, 2006, 04:13:51 PM

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Dillen

Hank has no shot, and even if he did, he wouldnt be an Eagle next year. Next year Herremans starts at RT most likely, with MJG at LG.

pinoyboy2pt0

MJG needs to drop some poundage.  He has a little trouble like Andrews did last year with the shiftier DT's in regards to their lateral movement.  Hopefully Andrews can get in his ear and we can have two great G's for years to come.  What ever happened to Armstrong being our RT?  Not mean enough, fell of the charts?
Pass.  Pass. Pass. PUNT.  No pro bowl WR's.  Pass. Pass. Pass. PUNT.  Retarded special teams.  Pass. Pass. Pass. PUNT.  "I've got to do a better job."  Pass. Pass. Pass. PUNT.  Running game shines for 3 plays. Pass. Pass. Pass. PUNT.  No adjustments anywhere.  Pass.  Pass. Pass. PUNT.  (repeat)

Dillen

Armstrong would have never even been considered a starting RT of the future until Herremans changed positions.

PhillyPhreak54

The only future in a description about Armstrong would be "hopefully he'll be a good backup in the future."

He's horrible.

PhillyPhanInDC

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Falcons still in talks to deal Duckett

By Len Pasquarelli
ESPN.com

ATLANTA -- Despite losing one suitor when the New York Jets acquired Kevan Barlow from San Francisco on Sunday afternoon, the Atlanta Falcons on Monday evening continued trade discussions involving tailback T.J. Duckett, the subject of trade rumors for much of the offseason.

Several league sources said Monday that Falcons officials were discussing with several clubs a possible trade of the fifth-year veteran, and making progress on some fronts.

There were reports last week that the Falcons had fielded inquiries about Duckett from at least four teams. One of those clubs was definitely the Jets, but New York instead dealt for Barlow on Sunday, sending a fourth-round pick in the 2007 draft to the 49ers for the five-year veteran back.

Apparently, though, there is no shortage of interest in Duckett, who is having an excellent training camp and preseason. And while Falcons brass suggested Monday the team might retain Duckett for 2006, Atlanta is engaged in substantive trade talks on multiple fronts. One possible scenario, albeit a long shot, was said to be a three-team deal.

It is not known what kind of price tag Atlanta has set for Duckett, the Falcons' first-round choice in the 2002 draft, and a player clearly coveted by some tailback-needy franchises. The Falcons rejected a proposal by the Pittsburgh Steelers on draft weekend in April, and there were reports at the time that Atlanta wanted a third-round choice for him.

The Falcons are seeking a veteran wide receiver to fill the No. 3 spot, a vacancy that was created when Brian Finneran suffered a season-ending knee injury early in training camp. Atlanta likes its two young starters at the position, former first-round picks Michael Jenkins and Roddy White, but no one has stepped up to fill the void at the critical No. 3 spot. Coach Jim Mora acknowledged after Saturday's preseason loss at Green Bay that the Falcons "don't have" a proven third wide receiver right now.

In their trade discussions with the Jets, it was reported that Falcons officials were trying to acquire Justin McCareins, a five-year veteran who has lost his starting job in New York and who has clearly fallen out of favor with the new coaching staff there. The Falcons are also seeking a backup safety to bolster the position behind starters Lawyer Milloy and Chris Crocker.

Mora was particularly critical on Saturday of the performance of his backup safeties.


Duckett, 25, is not a good fit for the one-cut running game the Falcons emphasize and is viewed around the league more as a "downhill" runner. He is entering the final season of his original rookie contract, and will be eligible for unrestricted free agency next spring, and the Falcons stand the prospect of losing him and not receiving any compensation unless they trade him.

But dealing Duckett would leave Atlanta with no proven backup to starter Warrick Dunn. The team chose Jerious Norwood of Mississippi State in the third round of this year's draft. The rookie has been impressive at times, but it is difficult to ascertain at this point if he is ready to step into the primary backup role.

In two preseason outings, Duckett has rushed for 96 yards on 15 carries. The 96 yards are the sixth most in the NFL in the preseason and Duckett's healthy 6.4-yard average is second best among players with at least 15 rushing attempts.

The former Michigan State standout, chosen 18th overall in the 2002 draft, has carried 552 times for 2,175 yards and 31 touchdowns in 54 career appearances, including 14 starts. His best season was in 2002, when he ran for 779 yards and 11 touchdowns. As a backup, Duckett rushed for 500-plus yards in each of his first three seasons in the league, but dropped off to just 380 yards in 2005.

He has averaged nine rushing touchdowns over the last three seasons.

Would you send Considine for him? Not so sure about that one...the Eagles obviously don't have a WR reciever they'd want. Maybe GLew and Ware?
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rjs246

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I would send them Considine in a goddamned heartbeat.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

PhillyPhanInDC

Quote from: rjs246 on August 22, 2006, 06:17:31 PM
I would send them Considine in a goddamned heartbeat.

I was thinking that, but JJ apparently is planning to have Considine playing a role in nickel situations. The guy is decent as a backup/nickel guy in my opinion. If they send Considine, that would leave us with Ware back there, and I'm not so sure I'd be okay with that....
"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done.""  R.I.P George.

rjs246


Duckett is EXACTLY what this team needs. I mean, if they got him for anything less than a second rounder I would be doing cartwheels.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

PoopyfaceMcGee

Let's send them Greg Lewis, Matt Ware, and a 6th!  That would totally do it!  Totally.

PhillyPhanInDC

Quote from: rjs246 on August 22, 2006, 06:22:34 PM

Duckett is EXACTLY what this team needs. I mean, if they got him for anything less than a second rounder I would be doing cartwheels.

So, in summary, it's not likely RJS will be doing anyway cartwheels.

Well.....at least no non-booze induced carwheels.
"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done.""  R.I.P George.

reese125

3 reasons why we wouldnt ever get Duckett:

1) there are other teams starved for a RB with most likely better trade options than the Eagles would ever ever give up-that we apparently know

2) How many times do we  have to realize that Andy doesnt use the big back theory--see steven davis?

3) Atlantas zone blocking scheme on offense is the reason for Ducketts success. On this offense, you need a quick gap runner that blows thru the whole..aka Westbrook. Duckett, if you notice on many of his runs, has big enough holes to run through based on that scheme, and picks up big chunks of yards. His success is not predicated on speed. How many big holes do you ever see with this line, as you do with KC, PITT, INDY, or Denver? we dont have the lineman speed

the dream for a rb continues....

hunt

4)  the eagles' front office has no balls.
lemonade was a popular drink and it still is

ice grillin you

the minute theres even a mention of another team involved the eagles have virtually no chance of going after a player...they are the gold standard after all and are above competing with other teams for talent

i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

reese125

so f-in painful to listen and watch this organization run things in the off-season

Drunkmasterflex

They have a ton of cap space though.
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