Hank Baskett Hysteria

Started by MURP, August 03, 2006, 02:44:34 PM

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SunMo

Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on August 11, 2006, 04:45:52 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 11, 2006, 04:34:27 PM
Why are you even comparing Greg Lewis to Baskett when you know for a fact that Lewis is nearly, if not completely, worthless?

umm maybe because greg lewis as an undrafted player was also at one time getting overrated and hyped up the same way baskett is now

in training camp and preseason dont beleive everything you see and hear...especially when 99% of the trends tell you so

undrafted wr's
rookie wr's
eagle rookie wr's
eagle wr's
undrafted rookie eagle wr's

and on and on and on and on and.....

Greg Lewis was never as hyped up as much as Baskett has been.   

yes he was.  everybody thought he was a step up when Pinky got hurt last year
I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

SunMo

I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

PoopyfaceMcGee

Correct.  We were wrong.  He sucks.

Drunkmasterflex

Quote from: SunMoTzu on August 11, 2006, 04:46:30 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on August 11, 2006, 04:45:52 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 11, 2006, 04:34:27 PM
Why are you even comparing Greg Lewis to Baskett when you know for a fact that Lewis is nearly, if not completely, worthless?

umm maybe because greg lewis as an undrafted player was also at one time getting overrated and hyped up the same way baskett is now

in training camp and preseason dont beleive everything you see and hear...especially when 99% of the trends tell you so

undrafted wr's
rookie wr's
eagle rookie wr's
eagle wr's
undrafted rookie eagle wr's

and on and on and on and on and.....

Greg Lewis was never as hyped up as much as Baskett has been.   

yes he was.  everybody thought he was a step up when Pinky got hurt last year

Your right, but there was never the same type of hype that now surrounds Baskett. 
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Rome

Greg Lewis never had the kind of camp that Baskett has had.

Greg Lewis doesn't have the size, strength or ability that Baskett apparently does.

Greg Lewis was never more than a fourth option at best.  Baskett, on the other hand, went into camp as about the 6th option yet has somehow risen to the 2nd.  Again, something that Lewis never did.

And why is that?  Because Greg Lewis is nothing more than a role player.  He's proven that again and again.

Baskett, on the other hand, has not proven anything yet other than he has the ability to go from the bottom of the depth chart before training camp started to near the top in the space of three weeks.

But hey, let's compare Greg Lewis (who more than likely occupies Baskett's former place on the depth chart at this point) and Baskett some more.  It's teh funnest.

PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 11, 2006, 05:42:19 PM
Greg Lewis never had the kind of camp that Baskett has had.

Greg Lewis doesn't have the size, strength or ability that Baskett apparently does.

Greg Lewis was never more than a fourth option at best.  Baskett, on the other hand, went into camp as about the 6th option yet has somehow risen to the 2nd.  Again, something that Lewis never did.

And why is that?  Because Greg Lewis is nothing more than a role player.  He's proven that again and again.

Baskett, on the other hand, has not proven anything yet other than he has the ability to go from the bottom of the depth chart before training camp started to near the top in the space of three weeks.

But hey, let's compare Greg Lewis (who more than likely occupies Baskett's former place on the depth chart at this point) and Baskett some more.  It's teh funnest.

True, not quite.

Yes, but he has a lot more speed.

Wrong.  Lewis ascended to the #2 role with ease last year and kept it the whole season.  He played #2 more like a true #4, but he was the #2 guy all year none the less.

Everyone's a role player.  Some roles are bigger than others.

Baskett has limitations on his speed, so if he ever rounds out a route or starts dropping the tough catches, he's pretty much useless.

Why not compare them?  At this point, Baskett has the edge, because he's unproven, but there's still hope.  Whereas Lewis has proven himself mediocre.

Rome

He has more speed?  Great!  Too bad he can't get off the line to use it.  And when he does somehow find his way off the line, he ends up getting pimp-slapped around.

As for the role-player retort, you knew what I meant, so cram it. 

As for the speed thing, that applies to nearly ever receiver in the NFL because the cornerbacks covering them are every bit as fast.

Finally, I have no problem comparing them.  What I have a problem with is someone using Lewis as an example of why Baskett will fail.  Greg Lewis is a UDFA just like Baskett, so of course, Baskett is destined for failure.  That kind of illogic is patently stupid and that's what Mr. IGY initially implied, FF.

MadMarchHare

Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 11, 2006, 05:42:19 PM
Greg Lewis never had the kind of camp that Baskett has had.

Greg Lewis doesn't have the size, strength or ability that Baskett apparently does.

Greg Lewis was never more than a fourth option at best.  Baskett, on the other hand, went into camp as about the 6th option yet has somehow risen to the 2nd.  Again, something that Lewis never did.

And why is that?  Because Greg Lewis is nothing more than a role player.  He's proven that again and again.

Baskett, on the other hand, has not proven anything yet other than he has the ability to go from the bottom of the depth chart before training camp started to near the top in the space of three weeks.

But hey, let's compare Greg Lewis (who more than likely occupies Baskett's former place on the depth chart at this point) and Baskett some more.  It's teh funnest.

Dude, before we annoint him the next Mike Quick or Harold Carmichael, lets see how he does when, you know, a defense actually prepares for him.  The earliest that might happen is the 4th preseason game.  More likely, it won't be until Houston.
Anyone but Reid.

Rome

Oh, and one other thing, Lewis ascended to the #2 spot because they didn't have anyone else who was remotely competent playing on the field.  He rose there out of pure happenstance, not because he earned it.

General_Failure

Yep, no way you can compare the two situations at all.

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MadMarchHare

Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 11, 2006, 05:54:58 PM
Oh, and one other thing, Lewis ascended to the #2 spot because they didn't have anyone else who was remotely competent playing on the field.  He rose there out of pure happenstance, not because he earned it.

Hank "earned" it over the likes of Greg Lewis.  Wait til Houston to decide on the kid.  He'll be the #2 then, you'll find out just how good or bad he is.
Anyone but Reid.

Rome

I never annointed him the second-coming of Christ.

I pointed out that his potential exceeds Lewis's.  Am I wrong about that?  Am I wrong to say that Lewis is nothing more than a 3 or 4 at best on this team?

If so, please enlighten me.

General_Failure

The draft experts at about.com projected Baskett as a first round player. :sly

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