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[ice grillin you]

exactly what i was thinking...not to mention most first rounders are going for five year deals...the eagles need to stop being so stubborn and get him in at 5 years and worry about the rest later

its amazing to me how one after another of their front office people come and say how the player really needs to be here and hs hurting himself by not...as if its all on the player (or agent)

where is the teams responsibility to get the player in?

[General_Failure]

You expect them to say they're dicking guys around until they cave to the team's demands?

[PhillyPhreak54]

exactly what i was thinking...not to mention most first rounders are going for five year deals...the eagles need to stop being so stubborn and get him in at 5 years and worry about the rest later

its amazing to me how one after another of their front office people come and say how the player really needs to be here and hs hurting himself by not...as if its all on the player (or agent)

where is the teams responsibility to get the player in?

After the 16th pick the longest a team can sign a player is 5 years per the new CBA.

[ice grillin you]

ngata five year deal as well a couple other top 16 people


You expect them to say they're dicking guys around until they cave to the team's demands?

no but they could shut their mouth and say nothing...all negotiations are two way...yet the eagles send their mouthpieces out there and say how its all the players or agents fault.....its clearly the banner way of doing things and it doesnt help in any way

[PhillyPhreak54]

Come on, you have to agree that the agent not letting Bunkley talk to Reid is crap. But it always seems to fall on the Eagles for not getting it done. Like they should just bow down and do whatever the agent wants.

[reese125]

"where is the teams responsibility to get the player in?"


truest statement made all day

[ice grillin you]

Come on, you have to agree that the agent not letting Bunkley talk to Reid is crap.

reid is the gm...if i were an agent i would not let my player talk to the gm...if you wanna say the player should be in the ear of the guy that is working for him i would agree...bunk should be more forceful with his agent...but no way am i letting my client talk to my/his adversary


But it always seems to fall on the Eagles for not getting it done.

i think its the opposite...the greedy player and agent are the ones always getting the blame in these situations..and in a lot of cases thats true...but not so much in the nfl where the player is always at the disadvantage of the cba rules

im not even putting full blame on the eagles for a deal not being done...it goes both ways but they shouldnt be out in the media talking ish on bunk and his agent...like god forbid they dont take the offer that reid and banner have thrown out there...thes guys come across as the end all to be all and not agreeing with them makes you the worst person ever

why are the eagles so right for wanting a six year deal but bunk is wrong for wanting a five

[reese125]

makes you think where the Eagles priorities are when push comes to shove. If your so high on a guy pre and post draft, meet somebody half way and make room in your accounting books for christs sake.

Negotiating this long for a year extended is utterly ridiculous

[PhillyPhreak54]

I don't care about 5 or 6 years. And the Eagles and BUnkley shouldn't care either way. The 5-6 year thing only matters for one thing...the bonuses.

If he's as good as he should be, he'll be getting a new contract by year 4 of that deal. That fits the Eagles MO.

And if he sucks he'll get his bonus money regardless of how long the deal is.

Make it a 6 year that voids to a 5 year deal and get it done. And it takes both sides to do the deal.

Andy Reid is not handling the negotiations. He said this while on with Eskin and this should be known by Eagles fans by now. Heckert is the GM. Many think he's just window dressing. But even if he is, the two people who are crunching numbers are Howie Roseman and Joe Banner.

Reid is the guys coach. He needs to talk to him. He should not be viewed as an adversary. They can only offer him so much money because of the rookie pool. Its all about the years of the deal. And the amount of money offered to him, per Eskin, is greater than the amount paid to Wimbley.

[ice grillin you]

Andy Reid is not handling the negotiations

reid is not simply coach and we all know that...hes heckerts boss and titles aside we all know reid is the gm...is banner working the numbers sure...but in the case of an unsigned player reids position is unquestionably upper management...once hes signed and on the field it changes to coach

theres no reason bunk needs to talk to any of these guys now..they just wanna try and get to him so they can waive the eagle swirly lolipop in his eyes and poof!....six year deal...an agent is only doing his job in keeping his player away from that

[Diomedes]

Come on, you have to agree that the agent not letting Bunkley talk to Reid is crap.

Are you kidding?  At this point, there is no player-coach relationship.  It's business.  Until the deal is done, Reid is the guy on the other side of the table.  You don't share hookers with him until you've signed the paper.

[rjs246]

I agree completely with IGY et al on this one. The standard of 5 years has been by just about every other pick above and below Bunkley. If they're still bickering over that one point this is (almost) entirely on the team.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

I agree.  If the time he's missing is so valuable and he's so important to the team, then they should give him the 5 years and get him into camp.  There's no way he'll see that 5th year on his current contract anyway, unless he's a super-stud and he's refused the Eagles overtures to sign a new deal a la Sheppard, Andrews, et al... in which case he'd probably hold out for the 6th year and be a complete pain in the ass.  Hell, Andrews played literally one season, somewhat decently, and got the big dollars.

Obviously, the Eagles are overblowing the importance to the team of him missing this time.  They probably are having no problems getting the likes of Marshall, Ramsey, Rayburn, and Jasper more reps so that they know who to keep at the bottom of the rotation on the roster.  So, it doesn't really hurt Bunkley in the long-run, and it doesn't really hurt the Eagles to let this thing drag out.

[jeffreyjpa]

Phreak makes some good points, though...if he's a great player, he'll get a hefty extension with the Eagles between his second and fourth year, anyway. If he sucks, he'll be cut before he ever gets to the fifth year, and will be a free agent. Either way, the sixth year of the contract seems irrelevant from the player's perspective. I would guess the Eagles want the sixth year to spread out the bonus for an additional year, cap-wise.

If Bunkley is willing to take one-sixth less of a signing bonus for a five year deal, then the Eagles would probably be ok with doing that. I'm guessing that may be part of the problem, though, as Bunkley's camp probably wants the same bonus for a five year deal, making the annual cap figure higher (don't mess with Joe's cap).

I don't care either way, it's not my money...I just want the guy in camp. I wasn't as concerned last week when the Eagles were the only team in TC, but now many of the guys picked around him have been signed and the precedents are set. I'm not sure what cap-impact a voidable sixth year would have, but it seems like a good compromise.

[BigEd76]

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