Excerpts from New T.O. Book Released

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rjs246

Quote from: SunMoTzu on July 10, 2006, 10:50:02 AM
he's my favorite player and i see this shtein.

Took the words right out of my mouth.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

SunMo

I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

ice grillin you

#107
elway - Rod Smith, Shannon Sharpe, the Three Amigo's to a lesser extent.
Marino - Duper, Clayton, Fryar
Kelly - Lofton, Andre Reed
Favre - Sterling Sharpe, Javon Walker, Keith Jackson, Antonio Freeman


none of these were/are great wr's...

the three amigos
duper
clayton
fryar
walker (could be great one day)
freeman

lofton was great but sucked before he went to buffalo where kelly resurrected his career

reed ill give you but he didnt have any special qualities...and i would argue kelly made him not the other way around

rod smith has had a great career but id hardly classify him as a great wr...

im not gonna argue every last wr that all these qb's had because we will drown in minutia...but if you believe these guys had truly great wr's and were a product of them rather than the other way around then your blind homerism for mcnabb has fully taken your soul

the bottom line is mcnabb has never made a wr great...and i ask....if hes such a great qb...why cant he have made a pinkston thrash or charles johnson into a duper clayton or andre reed...the answer is because he isnt that good...hes not the kind of passer/player/leader who is going to elevate a player to a level better than they are

can mcnabb win a superbowl...probably...look at the people who have done it...but hes not a great qb...not even close...he lacks in to many areas to be one...but thats not whats important to me right now...what im most worried about is his psyche going into this year...and is he going to be able to handle the TO mess from last year that will follow him...and when the going gets tough this year will he hold up...

i think it will all show in the dallas game...honestly do you see mcnabb getting all hyped up and gutter for that game...come out and just take it over and stick it to TO and dallas...im sorry but i dont...i can see him acting like its just another game all week...smiling and joking...saying its one of 16...blah blah blah...but all the time dying inside about it then coming out and laying an egg on game day...afterwards saying how it still was just another game and it didnt bother him...now we have to move on because we have another game next sunday...meanwhile TO will talk ish before during and after getting his team amped up blow up for a couple scores and 100 yards...and say afterwards i told you so...

god i hope im wrong and mcnabb goes bonkers over that game acts like a man stands up gets his team ready and wrecks shop...but i dont see that in him...and thats one of the things he doesnt have and why he will never be one of the greats

basically for this year (and any other) the eagles have to have a defense like they had in 2001-2003...if mcnabb has a d that can carry him then he can win games in this league...but simply put mcnabb cannot carry a team on his back like the above qb's were able to do
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

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Diomedes

you type too much.  i'm not reading all that.
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ice grillin you

i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Diomedes

long posts that repeat everything you've already said are queen
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SunMo

I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

Phanatic

Quote from: ice grillin you on July 10, 2006, 10:12:54 AM
elway
marino
kelly
farve

you people do realize that great qb's sometimes make avererage wr's very good or great....the great qb's dont need to be saved by great wr's...they make the wr's better...soemthing mcnabb doesnt do...he needs a TO to be a great qb...not the otherway around

The Eagles have a group of average recievers?
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Feva

Quote from: ice grillin you on July 10, 2006, 10:12:54 AM
elway
marino
kelly
farve

You say they never had great receivers but every one of these hall of famers played with either future HOF WR's or very close to it... and I personally never compared McNabb to any of these guys.  I talk about McNabb with the group of QB's who are in the NFL now.  Pulling out HOF QB's to make an argument only strengthens my point more.  Why shtein on a QB that you have to reach for all-time greats to make a favorable comparison?

Quote from: ice grillin you on July 10, 2006, 10:12:54 AM
you people do realize that great qb's sometimes make avererage wr's very good or great....the great qb's dont need to be saved by great wr's...they make the wr's better...soemthing mcnabb doesnt do...he needs a TO to be a great qb...not the otherway around

I totally understand that concept... but I challenge you to give me ONE wide receiver that McNabb has had over his career that any of those QB's could have elevated anywhere near the level of an Andre Reed, Rod Smith or Shannon Sharpe.

McNabb simply needs help around him... something that every "great" QB has had at some point during the height of their respective careers.
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I think TOs book is going to be great. It can be used for:
TOilet paper
bird cage liner
target practice
starting fires
OR
We could give it to a derelict to use as TOilet paper then line the bird cage for a week then set it on fire and throw it at #81 on the other team on Oct. 8.
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Wingspan

Quote from: ice grillin you on July 10, 2006, 11:00:58 AM
lofton was great but sucked before he went to buffalo where kelly resurrected his career

he only went to the pro bowl 7 times before going to the bills.
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PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: EagleFeva on July 10, 2006, 01:28:14 PM
I challenge you to give me ONE wide receiver that McNabb has had over his career that any of those QB's could have elevated anywhere near the level of an Andre Reed, Rod Smith or Shannon Sharpe.

L.J. Smith.  Brian Westbrook.  Na Brown.

ice grillin you

he only went to the pro bowl 7 times before going to the bills.

he was a shell of his former self for several years before he got with kelly and was in most peoples eyes finished...kelly single handedly gave him life for a couple years

but you knew that is what i meant
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

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mussa

its easy to focus on where mcnabb has failed, but it is a team sport and if he fails, someone else needs to step up, and we havn't had that. its william penn and his curse.  suck it. 
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