Garcia - Eagle WR's seem like clones

[shorebird]

He was HURT!! Why do you think he went under the knife in the first place???

[SunMo]

IT WAS THE fargING DEFENSE

[shorebird]

Oh yeah, he got operated on because he had a losing record, it had nothing to do with a hernia.

[shorebird]

Are you really saying that a healthy McNabb by himself isn't four games better  than McMahon??

Please, rjs, answer the question. So you don't think McNabb is a 4 game difference maker, but do you really think that he can't make that much of a difference from McMahon?

[rjs246]

You're reaching dude. Like I said before, everyone wants to pretend like last year didn't happen. Like the injuries give this team a mulligan on an awful season. It doesn't work that way. They'll be better this year, but as Sun said, if the defense doesn't improve by a freaking mile, this team could have a losing record again.

[rjs246]

Are you really saying that a healthy McNabb by himself isn't four games better  than McMahon??

Please, rjs, answer the question. So you don't think McNabb is a 4 game difference maker, but do you really think that he can't make that much of a difference from McMahon?

After McNabb went down the team went 2-5. You're suggesting that they would have gone 6-1 under McNabb? Come one man, you're embarrassing yourself.

[shorebird]

If the defense isn't on the freaking field for three quarters of the game thanks to so many three and outs by a crappy offense they will be better. I think it was a chain reaction, caused by so many injuries that led to such a bad defense and crappy season. I by no means put all the blame on the defense for last year and don't expect them to have to improve as greatly as you think for them to win this year. Saying that the defense must get a mile better for this team to win when we lost a pro bowl quarterback who was hurting every time he went under center is having tunnel vision.

And don't forget all the bullshtein from that loud mouthed manbitch TO. It was a farged up season from any perspective. Every way you look at it. There wasn't a single good thing I can remember from last season. It wasn't just the defense.

[shorebird]

Are you really saying that a healthy McNabb by himself isn't four games better than McMahon??

Please, rjs, answer the question. So you don't think McNabb is a 4 game difference maker, but do you really think that he can't make that much of a difference from McMahon?

After McNabb went down the team went 2-5. You're suggesting that they would have gone 6-1 under McNabb? Come one man, you're embarrassing yourself.

If he was HEALTHY! What don't you understand about that? Yes, I think if McNabb was healthy they wouldn't have been 4 and 5 in the first place.

[rjs246]

Look, a lot of shtein went wrong this year and you can assume that most of it will be remedied this year... BUT
1) this offense is incomplete and while everyone compares this WR corps to 2003, both of those receivers had a few years under their belt with this offense, practiced for years with McNabb and knew their roles. Our two starters are a second year player and a guy who has never played on this team.
2)in 2003 McNabb was willing to run. For the past two years he has not been willing to create yardage with his feet. He buys time, but he doesn't run. With TO in 2004 that wasn't a problem. That is a problem now.
3)in the past this team had capable blockers at TE and FB. They do not anymore.
4)the defense could not get pressure last year. Patterson should be better, Kearse should be better, Howard should be healthy and motivated, Cole might be a force, Bunkleymight contribute right away. Or one or many of those things could not happen and this defense can look identical to last year.

There are a LOT of 'ifs' on this team. Saying that they will go from 6-10 to 11-5 because their QB is back is laughable.

[rjs246]

If he was HEALTHY! What don't you understand about that? Yes, I think if McNabb was healthy they wouldn't have been 4 and 5 in the first place.

You're attributing their record to his health again. I can't do that. McNabb was hurt in the first game, and Reid still only ran the ball 14 times. Healthy or not, that's no way to win. Reid called 8 running plays in the Cowboys game. He opened the Broncos game with 12 straight (incomplete) passes. Did this team suddenly get a brand new coach? Does a healthy McNabb suddenly complete 8 of those 12 missed passes to start the Denver game? Does Reid figure out how to run the ball because McNabb is healthy?

You know, you take away a ludicrous comeback vs. KC and a miracle win against SD and this team was FAR worse than their 6-10 record...

[shorebird]

I'm not saying 11-5, but 10-6 is definatly attainable.

1) this offense is incomplete and while everyone compares this WR corps to 2003, both of those receivers had a few years under their belt with this offense, practiced for years with McNabb and knew their roles. Our two starters are a second year player and a guy who has never played on this team.

And I think they are way better than Pinkston and Thrash already.

2)in 2003 McNabb was willing to run. For the past two years he has not been willing to create yardage with his feet. He buys time, but he doesn't run. With TO in 2004 that wasn't a problem. That is a problem now.

I agree, and I've also seen a trimmer McNabb this year, which leads me to hope he might be ready to run more, and yes, I think he will have to run to keep D's honest. but I don't think his running will be that much of a difference, a healthy McNabb who only scrambles occasionally is still way better than a running, or throwing McMahon.

3)in the past this team had capable blockers at TE and FB. They do not anymore.

True, but imo, the O-line was the main reason McNabb took such a beating last year. I feel the O-line, although largely untested as yet, is still better.

4)the defense could not get pressure last year. Patterson should be better, Kearse should be better, Howard should be healthy and motivated, Cole might be a force, Bunkleymight contribute right away. Or one or many of those things could not happen and this defense can look identical to last year.

Call me a homer, but I think that the D was just plain run ragged last year, and can be better just from playing with a lead or not being on the friggen' field so damn much. The one weak spot I see is at linebacker. I don't think the secondary or the D-line is as bad as they looked last year.

There are a LOT of 'ifs' on this team. Saying that they will go from 6-10 to 11-5 because their QB is back is laughable.

See first line ^

[shorebird]

If he was HEALTHY! What don't you understand about that? Yes, I think if McNabb was healthy they wouldn't have been 4 and 5 in the first place.

Does a healthy McNabb suddenly complete 8 of those 12 missed passes to start the Denver game? 

In a word, yes.

[rjs246]

And I think they are way better than Pinkston and Thrash already.

I agree, and I've also seen a trimmer McNabb this year, which leads me to hope he might be ready to run more, and yes, I think he will have to run to keep D's honest. but I don't think his running will be that much of a difference, a healthy McNabb who only scrambles occasionally is still way better than a running, or throwing McMahon.

True, but imo, the O-line was the main reason McNabb took such a beating last year. I feel the O-line, although largely untested as yet, is still better.

Call me a homer, but I think that the D was just plain run ragged last year, and can be better just from playing with a lead or not being on the friggen' field so damn much. The one weak spot I see is at linebacker. I don't think the secondary or the D-line is as bad as they looked last year.

That's a whole hell of a lot of specualtion and wishful thinking. So I will call you a homer.

And I will respectfully disagree with your assessment that McNabb would have completed 8 of the first 12 passes vs. Denver. No farging chance.

[SunMo]

i didn't know not having a sports hernia can stop all out blitzes, interesting.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

With a healthy McNabb and the defense playing as it was last year, the team would have still missed the playoffs.