The Hip-Hop Thread

[Seabiscuit36]

true. 

[phillymic2000]

How is it, that on the day after history has been made by a black man becoming president we are debating top white rappers?

How about a top 5 all time MC list

#1 KRS One
#2 Rakim
#3 Ganstarr
#4 Biggie
#5 Big Daddy Kane

I never liked Pac/Jay Z or Nas.

[ice grillin you]

How is it, that on the day after history has been made by a black man becoming president we are debating top white rappers?

there once was a story about a man named jed....but now jed is dead....and all his kids instead want to kick rhymes off the top of they head...what go around come around i figure....so now we got white kids callin themselves nigggggggas....the tables have turned as the crosses burned....remember YOU MUST LEARN!

[phillymic2000]

One reason why KRS One is the best of all time!

[Seabiscuit36]

white people should not rap and black people should not rock....that aint racism thats realism

there are crossovers who transcend race(Hendrix, Kravitz, Beastie Boys, Eminem)

[rjs246]

Slash. Win.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Isn't he Jewish?

[rjs246]

No. He's Superheroish.

[ice grillin you]

white people should not rap and black people should not rock....that aint racism thats realism

there are crossovers who transcend race(Hendrix, Kravitz, Beastie Boys, Eminem)

of course and more power to them

but in general the negatives far outweigh the positives.....basically dont do it

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

No. He's Superheroish.

Agreed.  He was very impressive in concert.  The chicks in the front row didn't seem to mind that he was spitting lit cigarettes at them.

[phillymic2000]

never heard of ador, got any links for him?

nah i just have the cd...im sure its out there for download...its called the concrete and had a lot of production from diamond d on it and the big single off it was done by pete rock


youve heard this right?...it was huge in 94



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qNyRfJObZA

I do remember the song, I never could pin where this track was from
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2zkRnoeKFc . I was out of college and at that point was almost done with the "new" hip hop of the day. I always was down with pre 91 hip hop until Biggie hit the scene, I got an underground tape of him live at a show in Brooklyn and his fargin lyrics were  , blew me away.

[ice grillin you]

one of the original songs that is looped to make let it all hang out is blue mitchells the good humour man which is amazing

http://www.imeem.com/people/o_jiCw/music/T2Dw0owu/blue_mitchell_good_humour_man/


the umcs classic "one to grow on"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huTk8bgzU9Y  also samples it at the start and at like 1:52

[shorebird]

Is Zack de la Rocha considered white?

[Seabiscuit36]

Sirius Backspin has been great today

[ice grillin you]

im doing this for other reasons but thought id post it here for anyone that might be interested...

my top 151 hip-hop songs of all time...im doing them in groups of 15-16 since that is a nice length for a cd...im a dummy when it comes to uploading...i can upload one song at a time but i dont know how to upload an entire folder...if someone can give me a step by step on how to do this ill upload these for anyone that wants them

151.     Them That's Not – J live
            Production By: Grap Luva
            1999

J's masterpiece about the travails of the music industry is a textbook in flow and lyricism.  Peep how he speeds up and slow flows his rhymes to the changing beat which is excellent in it's own right and put together by Pete Rock's little brother.


150.     Stay Real – Black Moon
            Production By: Da Beatminerz
            2003
Insane beat by the Beatminerz, one that was later jacked by Just Blaze for Jay-Z's "Public Service Announcement" perfectly suits Buckshot as the dark grimy music allows him to keep "an eye on the night".  It even makes the 5 footer sound dope.  Full disclosure regarding the beat: it actually first can be found on OC's "Word....Life" on the "Point O Viewz" intro.

149.     Brooklyn Kids - Jemini The Gifted One
            Production By: Minnesota
            1995

Yes newjacks this is the same Jemini that teamed up with Danger Mouse for "Ghetto Pop Life".  Here he spits a moving and sober picture of his blighted Brooklyn neighborhoods over a beat that was born for this subject matter.

148.     Full Clip - Gangstarr
            Prodcution By: DJ Premier
            1999

Your head starts nodding as you hear "Big L rest in peace" and BEFORE the beat even starts.  Not many groups can make a street and club banger but Gangstarr did it perfectly on this lead single to their greatest hits package.

147.     Day One – D.I.T.C.
            Production By: Diamond D
            1997

The quintessional as a group D.I.T.C. track.  Every member destroy's the amazing Diamond beat and makes the next man sharper, especially Big L who is just out of his mind.

146.     Be Black – King Sun
            Production By: King Shameek
            1990

Coming out mere weeks before Brand Nubians "One For All" this pro black banger stands up well against anything on the much more recognized album from the Now Rule Mob.

145.     In The Trunk (Glove Compartment Remix) – Too Short
            Production By: DJ Premier
            1992

One would think that a song produced by the east coast boom bap champion and the west coasts funk pimp champion would result in a culture clashed mess.  What it results in is Too Shorts best song ever.

144.     Scene – Mike Zoot
            Production By – DJ Spinna
            1997

Off the classic Zoot 2x12 inch from 97 comes the amazing "Scene" Zoot's braggadocio rhymes go flow perfectly over classic Spinna production.  One of the great crimes in hip-hop history is Mike Zoot not ever coming out with a full length.

143.     Drop The Bomb – Brand Nubian
            Production By – Brand Nubian
           1990

Not that Sadat X and Lord Jamar didn't come correct cause they kill their verses but this song makes any countdown on Grand Puba's verse alone.  Simply put it's one of the best verses ever spit in the history of rap music.

142.     Mix Tapes – The Nonce
            Production By: The Nonce
            1995

Back when people used to actually produce and rhyme on their own songs you had cohesive perfectly put together tracks and albums like the nonce's "Mix Tapes" off the amazing "World Ultimate".  Please cop this album if you haven't already.

141.     Crooklyn – Crooklyn Dodgers
            Producion By: Q-Tip
            1994

Brooklyn threesome Special Ed, Master Ace and Buckshot ironically rhyming over a track laid down by a producer from Queens.  The result is pure magic and if this song (along with his Mobb Deep work) doesn't show that Tip was the genius behind Tribe's beats then nothing will.

140.     They Want EFX Remix – Das EFX
            Production By: Das EFX
            1992

A vast improvement to an already damn good song.

139.     Open Up – The Nonce
            Production By: Yusef Afloat
            1997

From the vault of unreleased material put out by the Nonce following their 1995 debut "World Ultimate" comes their best song this dark track calling out all fake writers and emcees is super.

138.     It's On You – Pete Rock & CL Smooth
            Production By: Pete Rock
            1994

From the vastly underrated second Pete & CL album "The Main Ingrediant" (it is easily better than Mecca and the Soul Brother) comes this beautiful request to their fellow brothers of  New York to "Stop the Violence".

137.     Street Struck – Big L
            Production By: Lord Finesse
            1995

While Big L had a difficult time carrying whole albums he is owner of some of the best hip-hop songs (and verses) of all time.  Street Struck is a tale of  life and death on the streets of Harlem over a haunting beat by Lord Finesse that unfortunately foreshadowed L's own demise.

136.     Ya Wish Ya Could – Special Ed
            Production By: Howie Tee
            1989

At an amazing 16 years old Special Ed showed incredible flow and delivery for any age on this battle rhyme classic.  Q-Tip and Snoop may be the only people that had a flow as  effortless as Special Ed.