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Started by MURP, May 15, 2006, 10:34:04 AM

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DH

And how about the guys who were taken after the #46 pick we could have had if he didnt trade up? I think that makes this a "bad" pick.

46   San Diego   Drayton Florence   CB   Tuskegee
47   Kansas City   Kawika Mitchell   MLB   South Florida
48   Buffalo   Chris Kelsay   DE   Nebraska
49   Miami   Eddie Moore   OLB   Tennessee
50   Carolina   Bruce Nelson   C   Iowa
51   Denver   Terry Pierce   OLB   Kansas State
52   Cleveland   Chaun Thompson   OLB   West Texas A&M
53   N.Y. Jets   Victor Hobson   OLB   Michigan
54   Arizona   Anquan Boldin   WR   Florida State
55   Atlanta   Bryan Scott   FS   Penn State
56   N.Y. Giants   Osi Umenyiora   DE   Troy
57   San Francisco   Anthony Adams   NT   Penn State
58   Indianapolis   Mike Doss   SS   Ohio State

The BIGSTUD

#91
Yeah, but if we didn't take McDougle in the first we probably would've just stood pat and taken LJ Smith like I think it was SD who already mentioned it.

But I see your point. If we didn't give up the 2nd rounder for McDougle, maybe we could've landed a nice player in the 2nd round. But your guess is as good as mine on who we would've selected.
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DH

We can specuate all we want who we could have taken at 46, but the fact of the matter is that we would have selected someone. Maybe one of those guys who I didnt bold would have been a good player in our system. We'll never know.

PhillyPhreak54

Bruce Perry will not have reps taken away from him because Reno Mahe or Correll Buckhalter are in camp.

They all get a ton of reps in training camp. People who have been there can verify that they rotate players in a lot. And don't forget about the pre-season games too. The backups/scrubs/guys fighting for a look get more time than anyone.

If the Eagles didn't pay attention to what players did and didn't give them enough reps to satisfty some of you guys, how are they one of the best teams at finding and keeping UDFA players?

Who held Roderick Hood down in 2003 that kept him from making the team?

Yeah, that's right. He was a UDFA who made it because he showed he could play. If you can play, the coaches will find you and find a spot for you.

General_Failure

5 pages on a 3rd RB, 4th DE, and a 6th WR, and you still managed to fit in plenty of retarded comments, reese being completely oblivious to the world around him, and Russ getting his panties in a twist. Well done, everyone.

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PoopyfaceMcGee

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Quote from: Die-Hard on May 16, 2006, 12:04:47 AM
We can specuate all we want who we could have taken at 46, but the fact of the matter is that we would have selected someone. Maybe one of those guys who I didnt bold would have been a good player in our system. We'll never know.

The Eagles didn't give up pick 46, BTW.  That was San Diego's original pick.  They traded #30 and #62 to move up to #15.  Even if you assume they would have taken L.J. Smith at #30 instead had they not made the trade for McDougle, they could have taken Nate Burleson and/or Kevin Curtis at #61 & #62, or they could have traded away a pick for a future pick if they thought the draft was weak... or packaged one or both picks to move up and get Umeniyora or Boldin.  Whatever.  All kinds of options.

They let Hugh walk, they weren't able to acquire anyone else, so they were forced to trade up for need.  I don't care how weak the draft was... when you trade way up in the 1st round, you expect to get a player.  McDougle's done nada so far and is an awful pick and a complete bust until proven otherwise.

PhillyGirl

Quote from: Die-Hard on May 15, 2006, 11:32:24 PM
58   Indianapolis   Mike Doss   SS   Ohio State

Why? They had just drafted Mike Lewis the year before. Why is this even boldfaced?
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Zanshin

That whole revisionist history thing always cracks me up anyway...as if guys drafted later would have the same impact and success on any team, running any system.  It's not exactly that plug-and-play.

ice grillin you

That whole revisionist history thing always cracks me up anyway...as if guys drafted later would have the same impact and success on any team, running any system.  It's not exactly that plug-and-play.

definitely...there are so many factors that go into who they would have taken much less could have taken

lets just all agree that mcdougle was a very bad pick/move
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Zanshin

Well, to this point I'd classify McDougle as a snakebit underachiever who still has a chance to be a solid contributor.  You want more from a guy taken in that spot, certainly, but considering a good third or more of the first rounders taken every year are complete busts that stuff happens.  The shooting was wrong place at the wrong time kind of stuff, so last year has to get a mulligan. 

He still has a chance to be part of another third of the typical first round class that turns into solid contributors...I'd settle for that at this point.