Flyers 2006 Offseason Thread

PoopyfaceMcGee · May 02, 2006, 07:53:09 PM

So... Any defensemen going to be available that can actually skate?

SD_Eagle5 · May 02, 2006, 07:57:13 PM

Ahhhhhhh...you farger! I was just about to post this.

SD_Eagle5 · May 02, 2006, 11:53:05 PM

So I want Clarke gone, again. Actually, scratch that, let him be like Heckert and handle the college draft. He has no idea how to build a team to be competitive to todays style of play. He's been GM for what, 10 years and we've never had a championship caliber goalie (Sorry, Beezer and Hexy don't count)

I was going to post the link for Clarkemustgo but now it's a porn site, go figure.

BigEd76 · May 02, 2006, 11:59:35 PM

Get Elias

SD_Eagle5 · May 03, 2006, 12:08:31 AM

Quote from: BigEd76 on May 02, 2006, 11:59:35 PM
Get Elias

Would love him but he's too expensive, plus I'd rather focus on the real weakness of this team which is Defense.

BigEd76 · May 03, 2006, 12:41:04 AM

Hatcher, Rathje, Gauthier are already signed for a while, and Pitkanen is a restricted FA. That's 4 of the 7 right there. Johnsson and Desjardins are FAs, Therien is a FA and won't be back, and they have a couple of young guys in Meyer and Randy Jones. Nobody stepped up beyond the Gagne-Forsberg-Knuble line. Kapanen, Savage and Brashear are FAs and may not be back, so there's a spot available if they can work something out. Remember that no matter how the contract is built, it's spread evenly under the cap, so there's room to sign a FA or two if they want...

The BIGSTUD · May 03, 2006, 12:43:02 AM

Hatcher won't be here next year.

MDS · May 03, 2006, 12:43:46 AM

A full yearfor Nitty, and wholesale changes on the defense should get them back in contention. Also, getting some sort of second scoring line wouldnt hurt. My brilliant analysis will be unmatched.

Eagles_Legendz · May 03, 2006, 12:54:54 AM

Quote from: MDS on May 03, 2006, 12:43:46 AM
A full yearfor Nitty, and wholesale changes on the defense should get them back in contention. Also, getting some sort of second scoring line wouldnt hurt. My brilliant analysis will be unmatched.

Unfortunately, wholesale changes on defense will be hard to come by this offseason. Meyer was their best defenseman in the playoffs. Hatcher and Rathje are too restricted with the new rules, and it is clear their style of play is not conducive with the direction the NHL is going in--I would try to move one of the two, even knowing how difficult it may be to get someone else to take their contracts. I don't mind Gauthier or Pitkanen, although I wouldn't have minded to see one of them step up in the playoffs. Desjardins and Therien obviously need to go and I would prefer not having Jones play next season for the Flyers.

Offensively, Nedved and Brashear should be gone (maybe Kapanen as well). I don't expect Savage to be back either, even though he was productive in the playoffs. Radio and Stevenson should be released and the focus this offseason should be adding team speed, though it seems that this request has been a constant recording of mine since Clarke has had control.

SD_Eagle5 · May 03, 2006, 01:07:20 AM

Quote from: BigEd76 on May 03, 2006, 12:41:04 AM
Hatcher, Rathje, Gauthier are already signed for a while, and Pitkanen and Johnsson are restricted FAs. That's 5 of the 7 right there. Desjardins is a FA, Therien is a FA and won't be back, and they have a couple of young guys in Meyer and Randy Jones. Nobody stepped up beyond the Gagne-Forsberg-Knuble line. Kapanen, Nedved, Savage and Brashear are all FAs, so there's a spot available if they can work something out. Remember that no matter how the contract is built, it's spread evenly under the cap, so there's room to sign a FA or two if they want...

Then trade em. Don't get me wrong, I'd love Elias, I just don't see us getting him, especially with so many teams that could use a forward like him. My prediction is he stays with the Devils, especially after they win the cup this season.

Eagles_Legendz · May 03, 2006, 01:19:27 AM

Quote from: SD_Eagle on May 03, 2006, 01:07:20 AM
Quote from: BigEd76 on May 03, 2006, 12:41:04 AM
Hatcher, Rathje, Gauthier are already signed for a while, and Pitkanen and Johnsson are restricted FAs. That's 5 of the 7 right there. Desjardins is a FA, Therien is a FA and won't be back, and they have a couple of young guys in Meyer and Randy Jones. Nobody stepped up beyond the Gagne-Forsberg-Knuble line. Kapanen, Nedved, Savage and Brashear are all FAs, so there's a spot available if they can work something out. Remember that no matter how the contract is built, it's spread evenly under the cap, so there's room to sign a FA or two if they want...

Then trade em. Don't get me wrong, I'd love Elias, I just don't see us getting him, especially with so many teams that could use a forward like him. My prediction is he stays with the Devils, especially after they win the cup this season.

Who is going to want Rathje for three more years at 3.5 million a season? He has a no trade clause as well.

SD_Eagle5 · May 03, 2006, 01:24:38 AM

Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on May 03, 2006, 01:19:27 AM
Who is going to want Rathje for three more years at 3.5 million a season? He has a no trade clause as well.

You just ruined my night, thanks. There's always the chance we pick up some of his contract, make him feel unwanted, and force him to wave his no trade claus (which I wasn't aware he had)

Eagles_Legendz · May 03, 2006, 01:31:36 AM

Quote from: SD_Eagle on May 03, 2006, 01:24:38 AM
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on May 03, 2006, 01:19:27 AM
Who is going to want Rathje for three more years at 3.5 million a season? He has a no trade clause as well.

You just ruined my night, thanks. There's always the chance we pick up some of his contract, make him feel unwanted, and force him to wave his no trade claus (which I wasn't aware he had)

It's alright, the Flyers and studying for exams already did that for me. $:-\$

Supposedly, if we release him and he's signed with another team, I believe we only pay half of his deal (someone can check me on that). I agree though that going into the season with both Hatcher and Rathje is a losing proposition.

SD_Eagle5 · May 03, 2006, 01:45:27 AM

I don't mind keeping 1 big defenseman and if I had my choice that 1 guy would be Hatcher (I guess). Gauthier and Rathje need to go.

What are you studying? I'm working on a Psych paper and studying for my business final. Finals week sucks ass.

PhillyPhreak54 · May 03, 2006, 03:10:09 AM

FWIW,

Glen Macnow said on the radio tonight that he believes that Esche will be traded because he is one of, if not the only commodity they have to really deal.

And I doubt they can trade Gauthier, Rathje or Hatcher. And Gauthier signed his deal right after Clarke traded for him. So I don't know if it has a not trade in it or what.

I also remember Glen saying around the time the regular season was ending that he heard from his people within the organization that Johnsson will not come back. He said that he doesn't want to come back here and that the team will not pay him what he wants.

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