Sixers offseason

Magical_Retard · June 29, 2006, 03:36:10 PM

Quote from: hunt on June 29, 2006, 03:27:57 PM
Quote from: Magical_Retard on June 29, 2006, 02:59:06 PM

i think he play within the system in Boston, score his points, and still have enough shots for Pierce.

are you talking about the same a1 we've all watched for the past 10 years?

bah!

pointless arguing with u..u hate him and im a huge fan of his. and u can ignore the #s but iverson is prolly coming off his best season numbers wise ever...30 points per game and 7 some assists per game for a scorer playing PG. and for the past 10 yrs he has never ever had a true #2 to defer to or any real scorer.

with him at sg and pierce as sf i can easily see boston being a contender.

hunt · June 29, 2006, 03:46:06 PM

you're insane.

i'd love to know what you've seen over the past few years to make you believe that a1 will suddenly become a team player, play within the system, & defer shots to a teammate....boston will implode & i'll enjoy watching it happen.

Rome · June 29, 2006, 04:05:52 PM

Quote from: SunMoTzu on June 29, 2006, 02:48:00 PM
this isn't about next year, this is about years from now.

and do you really think a team of AI and Paul Pierce is going to light the world on fire?

Only if they discover it's really a Bob Marley joint.

Magical_Retard · June 29, 2006, 04:06:14 PM

Quote from: hunt on June 29, 2006, 03:46:06 PM
you're insane.

i'd love to know what you've seen over the past few years to make you believe that a1 will suddenly become a team player, play within the system, & defer shots to a teammate....boston will implode & i'll enjoy watching it happen.

how is he not a team player? what system didnt he play within? the same system designed for him to be the #1 option and score? similar to how the lakers play with kobe or wade with miami? how is iverson not a team player? because he doesnt pass the ball to guys who have very lil to zero offensive talent? and how did webber and ai work out offensively? it wasnt thier offensive that was the problem...it was the complete lack of D. ai and webber were the highest scoring tandem in the league and pierce and iverson can duplicate that possibly. and please tell me how he averaged more than 7 assists per game...something some true point guards werent able to do if he didnt defer to his teammates or pass the ball? hes a sg playing pg and still managed that.

hunt · June 29, 2006, 04:14:41 PM

hah! stop it. he's a selfish player.
a1 dominates the ball on every possesion & doesn't get teammates involved...the reason he gets assists is because he has the ball EVERY time down the floor...occasionally, he gets stuck in midair and HAS to pass the ball.
he's also a horrible team defender with his gambling style.

i'm not going through this again...maybe you'll finally realize it this season when he has a new team around him & still plays the same way. or maybe you'll blame his boston teammates too.

Rome · June 29, 2006, 04:20:53 PM

I wonder if Magical Retard is a scalper?

That would be like funny and stuff.

Magical_Retard · June 29, 2006, 05:09:18 PM

right u didnt answer a single question i asked. who has iverson had to defer to? and gets caught and has to pass occasionally? thats not how u avg 7+ assists, and have a scorer like webber on ur team who still averaged 20 pts. the whole problem with the team last yr wasnt the ball not getting around enough but the complete lack of DEFENSE. now i wont say he is excellent defender and in the past his gambling style worked cause we had great TEAM D to rely on when we had guys mckie, snow, lynch, ratliff, mutumbo. hes the scoring option...of course he is going to have the ball in his hands the whole time. it worked to take us to the finals when we build a team that made sense around him. it could be done again, if not here then somewhere else. selfish? yeah prolly is but his style is similar to most other stars in the league who dominate the scoring for thier team...BECAUSE THEY ARE THE BEST SCORING OPTION.

and ur right he had the ball in his hands the all the time..he is the PG and the best scoring option.

reese125 · June 29, 2006, 05:15:29 PM

magical, I agree with your statements.....and I would love to buy 4 please

SunMo · June 29, 2006, 05:19:17 PM

you keep hounding assists, but he ranked 64th in the league for Assist to Turnover ratio, a true point guard stat

Magical_Retard · June 29, 2006, 05:52:44 PM

Quote from: SunMoTzu on June 29, 2006, 05:19:17 PM
you keep hounding assists, but he ranked 64th in the league for Assist to Turnover ratio, a true point guard stat

i keep harping it because he is a SG playing PG. yes he turns the ball over...but every big time scorer who handles the ball so much and HAS TO (u might want to read that over and over) create so much of the offense turns the ball over. look at wade even in the finals. he was averaging around 5 turnovers a game yet he had one of the most amazing runs and finals performances in the history of the finals.

BigEd76 · June 29, 2006, 06:57:03 PM

#25 for Carney

SunMo · June 29, 2006, 07:07:45 PM

Quote from: Magical_Retard on June 29, 2006, 05:52:44 PM
he was averaging around 5 turnovers a game yet he had one of the most amazing runs and finals performances in the history of the finals.

that's a great reason not to trade him

Magical_Retard · June 29, 2006, 08:02:42 PM

Quote from: SunMoTzu on June 29, 2006, 07:07:45 PM
Quote from: Magical_Retard on June 29, 2006, 05:52:44 PM
he was averaging around 5 turnovers a game yet he had one of the most amazing runs and finals performances in the history of the finals.

that's a great reason not to trade him

do u even know what ur talking about? if anything he should be traded because he is one the bst players in the league and thanks to our brilliant front office we have been unable to put the pieces around him to get this team back to the finals....and we have decided to START ALL OVER. thats why u trade him. we are not trading him because he didnt perform...he just came off a 30+ppg 7+apg season. his numbers arent the reason for the trade. the iverson haters just want him gone and now ur stooping to really pointless arguments to make this case. im slowly coming to grips that we are trading and i hope he goes to a team and can win a championship one day but the fact he didnt win one here is not cause of him or supposedly him not being a team player but because we never put a team around him to succeed. one the best players in the history of the league and the AI haters make it seem like he is TO or something.

and my whole point with the assists was that he was playing out of position at PG, when he is really a SG and he managed to average 7+ apg so he can more than adapt and he did that with a team with another star in webber who ppl thought wouldnt work well with AI (webber still averaged 20 pts)

....if he goes to boston or wherever else they wont ask him to play out of position and actually maybe put the right pieces around him.

ice grillin you · June 30, 2006, 07:56:52 AM

pointless arguing with u..u hate him

holla

reese125 · June 30, 2006, 08:21:26 AM

magical, theres no need to rewrite Charlotte's Webb on proving your very valid points. Billy King has proved time and time again that he doesnt have what it takes to be a creative GM in this league...but his ability to to give overpriced contracts out to par players is outstanding

If I were Iverson, I would take 15 more shots a game, because not one of those clowns can make an open jumpshot--or have the balls to.

Other players defense--no comment