the random musings not worthy of new thread thread

[ice grillin you]

i should also add that while i have never heard of it happening im sure if you get overbooked at a marriott they send you next door into a bed at the hyatt...its not nearly the same as getting kicked off a flight and not being able to go home until the next day

[PhillyPhreak54]

i should also add that while i have never heard of it happening im sure if you get overbooked at a marriott they send you next door into a bed at the hyatt...its not nearly the same as getting kicked off a flight and not being able to go home until the next day

Yes - it is called "walking" and they will do that. As will airlines. That is called "interline agreements" and it exists between most of the legacy carriers. So technically if you get bumped by United then they can get you a seat on Delta or American or an international carrier within the same network.

The ULCC (ultra low cost carriers; Spirit, Frontier) do not have these. So if you fly them and get delayed or whatever you will not be put on another airline. You will sit and wait. Or rent a car and drive.

As an aside - UAL stock is down $1.81 per share today...so overall about a cool billion. EL OH EL

[Susquehanna Birder]

this is what i mean by people just insanely going out of their way to justify this guys beating whether partially blaming him which is downright cruel to trying to imply a false equivalency btwn airlines and concerts....like anyone has ever heard of someone getting kicked out of their concert seat right before showtime...do you have relatives in anagement at the airlines or something...i just dont get it

Nobody's going out of the way to justify anything. Like I said, it was an unfortunate cluster farg of mistakes.

concerts dont do it...cruises dont do it....trains dont do it...buses dont do it...sporting events dont do it....movie theaters dont do it....you buy a ticket you get provided that service

I'm not implying an equivalency. You were the one who brought up overbooking at concerts and such, and I was just pointing out your error.

[Susquehanna Birder]

Yes - it is called "walking" and they will do that. As will airlines. That is called "interline agreements" and it exists between most of the legacy carriers. So technically if you get bumped by United then they can get you a seat on Delta or American or an international carrier within the same network.

Which is probably how it could have been (or should have been) handled. But we'll never know, because it escalated into a physical confrontation. I wonder how the other three passengers managed.

[SD]

In 2007 I went to the WFC with my gf to see The Who. Tickets were free. They double printed the tickets for our seat. The usher said it happens from time to time. We were at our seats first. The guy who had the other pair showed up with his gf and was a total dick. So the usher said I can put you in a similar or better seat. So we took his offer. He put us on the floor 14 rows back.

[Tomahawk]

If the United story has taught us anything, the usher should have punched both you guys in the face.

[ice grillin you]

looks like united should send sean spicer a bouquet of flowers

[ice grillin you]

uniteds been MAGAing hard since trump announced his presidency

1. kicked a girl with autism off a flight
2. denied a muslim passenger an unopened can of soda
3. denied two women passage onto a plane because they were wearing leggings

[hbionic]

It just comes down to the airlines knowing they don't have a duty to protect the consumers and the laws don't. It's strictly "read the fine print" and "Ignorance of the law is not an excuse" for consumers. The industry knows better, but if there's no repercussions for them, they're not going to change anything.

Now, maybe losing money might motivate them to get something changed. But that's only because they got caught, not because they were proactive in looking out for the consumer.

Caveat emptor bitches!

[ice grillin you]

It just comes down to the airlines knowing they don't have a duty to protect the consumers and the laws don't. It's strictly "read the fine print" and "Ignorance of the law is not an excuse" for consumers. The industry knows better, but if there's no repercussions for them, they're not going to change anything.

yup thats basically the bottom line.....the corporation will almost always farg the customer whether to go along peacefully or not

way too many people like to point out how three other passengers went gently into the night when being kicked off as if they were happy to do so and kudos to them cause they obeyed and took their medicine and this kind of justifies the beatdown the other guy got....when instead they should be focusing on the fact that these people while not catching the beatdown still got screwed by an airlines awful business practice

[Tomahawk]

If I was on the plane, and not one of the four voluntold to leave, I would have been glad to see the guy punched in the face. At that point, he's slowing me down, preventing my plane from taking off.

If you don't like the policy, which is completely unlikable, have your sit in/fast in the airport terminal; not on my plane. By his protest on the plane, he's being an inconsiderate jackass, placing his own wants ahead of the hundreds of other people's.

[ice grillin you]

protest is sometimes uncomfortable to the masses whether its a strike by truckers that might not put enough broccoli in your produce aisle or a guy on a plane who is ruining someones life by making them 30 minutes late to a destination he had as much right to get to as anyone else on the plane

but thats humans....always full of two things: shtein and themselves

[hbionic]

Youre assuming no one else wanted to do what he was doing. He acted first, so, I'm sure there were people silently rooting for him.

[PhillyPhreak54]

Yes - it is called "walking" and they will do that. As will airlines. That is called "interline agreements" and it exists between most of the legacy carriers. So technically if you get bumped by United then they can get you a seat on Delta or American or an international carrier within the same network.

Which is probably how it could have been (or should have been) handled. But we'll never know, because it escalated into a physical confrontation. I wonder how the other three passengers managed.

Apparently the other three were cool with leaving almost 24hrs later - but they were not offering to re-book on other airlines. The gate agent was on the plane's intercom and that wasn't ever mentioned.

And as a matter of fact most gate agents will not proactively do this. On the rare occasion they will - because they're not dicks. But most of the time you have to be the one to ask them.

Only once in all the flights I have taken have they proactively re-booked me on another airline. I missed a flight in Austin once on Continental and they put me on American. Other times I have had to say "well...Delta has a direct that leaves in four hours can you get me on that" and its like I asked to take their daughters virginity.

[ice grillin you]

Youre assuming no one else wanted to do what he was doing. He acted first, so, I'm sure there were people silently rooting for him.

since non of the four volunteered to be removed im assuming the other three were not happy about it either...but we will praise them for being good little citizens who bowed down to the corporation and silently left with their tails between their legs...who really cares if they were unfairly farged over as long as it doesnt effect my life