the random musings not worthy of new thread thread

[MDS]

of course dio the ss officer sides with management

rules are rules, jews. get on the train. dont blame me i just follow the rules.

[Diomedes]

Everyone thinks they're on the Edmund Pettus bridge. 

Get off the plane and take your civil rights with you, bitch.

[Rome]

You have to be playing devil's advocate here.  There's no way you actually support the aggravated abuse of an old man because he insisted on remaining on a flight he paid for.

The farg is wrong with you?

[smeags]

trump doesn't like passengers that get drug off planes.

[MDS]

You have to be playing devil's advocate here.  There's no way you actually support the aggravated abuse of an old man because he insisted on remaining on a flight he paid for.

The farg is wrong with you?

hes not trolling...this is dio to his core. he comes off as a hipster liberal but in his soul he wants to live in a dictatorship where airlines can abuse old men so their employees can fly for free.

[ice grillin you]

id agree with dio if it was an honest mistake and if they innocently overbooked a plane by a random four people....but they were trying to make room for the employees of a fellow airline....farg that shtein

also even if all things were equal did the pigs need to crack his face open....they had three diesel cops and one old man....im pretty sure they could have ejected him in a much less violent fashion

[Tomahawk]

I don't know who's right, but I would have gotten off the plane when security told me to.

[Susquehanna Birder]

I don't know who's right, but I would have gotten off the plane when security told me to.

Most reasonable people would have. This is a good example of shared culpability.

I wonder if the flight crew would have said, "Okay...nobody flies until this guy gets off the plane," if some of the other passengers would have assisted in removing the guy, rather than bringing in the jack boots. Pitting the passengers against each other is always a good idea.

[ice grillin you]

youd think the guy had a gun on the plane or was threatening to blow it up....lets be clear no matter where you stand here the guy wanting to get home and to his scheduled work the next day is by far the least harmful thing that happened


an old man gets his face knocked in by the police for not wanting to give up a seat that he paid for and was issued all because the airline farged up

corporations + violent police = bigly winning

welcome to trumps america

[Susquehanna Birder]

Overbooking happens all the time. Apparently without violence.

Involuntary denial of boarding happens all the time. Apprently without violence.

The issue here is how the events escalated, and how the behavior or all the participants contributed to the scene.


A couple of months ago, I was on a flight where one guy brought his little lap dog along, supposedly with an "emotional support" exemption. The dog nipped at a gate attendant and apparently a flight attendant once the guy was seated. They came in and took the guy off the plane. He was clearly pissed, but he was smart enough to not be physically defiant.

[ice grillin you]

so because the airline makes mistakes all the time or even worse purposely implements a practice that they know may end up farging over passengers means people should just accept it?...basically expect to possibly get farged in the ass or just dont fly....and if you do fly and get farged in the ass you better take it like a good boy or get your face kicked in by the police...thats some farged up shtein

also this guy wasnt physically violent....he just refused to go out on his own power....even the other passengers who witnessed it were horrified at the actions by the cops

while the airlines are on some shady shtein in the first place i dont even have a problem with them removing him...i also love that he refused....but to farg his shtein up and then drag him out unconscious is disgusting

[Susquehanna Birder]

Like I said, the issue is with how this particular incident escalated with the passenger and the airport security thugs (not employees of United). So yeah, somebody screwed up on a personal level, as the altercation got more violent that it should have. But when three guys show up to physically remove you form the plane, and you resist, you tend to share some of the blame.

I believe three of the four passengers who were involuntarily bumped left without incident. And I have no doubt that they were compensated for the action accordingly. You might consider that as taking it like a good old boy, but others might consider it complying with the contract of carriage.

[ice grillin you]

But when three guys show up to physically remove you form the plane, and you resist, you tend to share some of the blame.

no. you. dont.

I believe three of the four passengers who were involuntarily bumped left without incident.

this is absolutely irrelevant...maybe they had nothing to get home to...maybe it was absolutely essential for the guy who said find someone else to have gotten home the next day...i dont know all the details but he said he had to open his doctors practice to tend to patients...but it could have been a job where if he didnt show up he would get fired...or maybe this time they just randomly picked a passenger who was fed up with the airlines zesty practices...my retired father in law lives to get bumped because hes a cheap bastich who wants free shtein and has never has anything to do and nowhere he ever has to be

not everyone is like this...some people HAVE to get home...for this reason the airlines should stop farging up....concert and sporting events somehow are able to not overbook 80 thousand seat stadiums but an airline cant keep a couple hundred seats straight?...gimme a break

i put 50% of this on the incompetency of the airlines and 50% on the cops

[Diomedes]

Yeah I'm not trolling at all.  UA fully within it's rights to bump passengers even after boarding. That's how flying works..  Not saying they did the deed well, or that security handled the situation well, because clearly they both failed.  There were ample opportunities to reduce tension and achieve the desired result that were not taken.  For all that, UA and the airport will pay dearly.  Not least because the brainless social media mob is really enjoying their indignant circle jerk.

But let's stop pretending this guy is a blameless victim, some kind of civil rights martyr.  When he refused to leave the plane, he became part of the problem and resisting security when they arrived was further unnecessary escalation.

[ice grillin you]

he will be a martyr if this leads to the airlines changing their anti consumer practices....of course this would be asking a corporation to become 1% human....so i wont be staying up at night waiting for anything to change