Who would you take?

[rjs246]

How can any sane football fan for one second believe that Tom Brady is not the superior quarterback in this comparison? I love McNabb. He's the best QB this team has seen. He's a good leader, has a great arm and can make things happen. He's the face of the Eagles and rightfully so. And I would trade him for Brady in a heartbeat.

[Feva]

You misunderstood me.

I believe wholeheartedly that Brady is a better QB than McNabb.  Where you and I differ is on both players' surrounding cast and if you switched the situations... then it would be the Eagles with the 3 Lombardi trophies and the Pats the ones who couldn't win the big game.

That said... I would also trade McNabb for Brady.  He's the only QB that I would and even then, I don't think that automatically makes us Super Bowl champs in any of the situations we came up short.  Maybe we do end up winning one... but to treat it as a given is a mistake, IMO.




And... whoever said anything about me being a sane football fan?

[rjs246]

I'm not saying that the Eagles would have won 3 Lombardis, I'm saying I have no doubt that they would have won at least ONE trophy. So really we're saying more or less the same thing.

Cram it.

[Feva]

Love you too, hon.



Die.

[reese125]

Put any quaterback behind there, thats not afraid to release the ball when the receivers make their breaks, instead of waiting until they are dead open-- and we win one of those bowls. McNabbs lacks the key fundamentals, and relies on pure arm strength and athleticism to win the majority of games.

BUT, thats all we got and Im sticking by him to do something.

[FreakisaKearseWord]

I give McNabb credit for being such an athlete and he was doing good with the receivers the Eagles had. But we saw the best of McNabb when he had a guy like TO to throw to, but a lot of quarterbacks can do the same if they had receivers like you-know-who.

[Feva]

The question is though how many QB's can do what McNabb has done with the guys he's had to throw to.

[reese125]

The question is though how many QB's can do what McNabb has done with the guys he's had to throw to.

your right, not many, but how many decent quaterbacks actually use the proper mechanics where they step into their throws, hit their reciever in stride and the ball goes in their chest....not at their shoelace. There is a reson why he throws ground balls, and its not because he's under pressure.

Every quaterback makes mistakes, but our boy Donavan needs to go to Arizona this off-season and try something new.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Are we all stuck in a time warp from 2002-2003 here?

Even injured and with little protection, Donovan looked more accurate last season than he did his first few.  Again, I'd pretty much have to say that if you don't think Donovan's a very good QB, then you should probably not bother following the team too closely for the next 5 years or so.

[rjs246]

I wouldn't go as far as little mr reese here, but McNabb makes more 'bad' throws for no apparent reason than great QBs should.

And in response to Feva's question. I can only think of one QB who could do as much/more with what McNabb has had to work with. Brady.

[Feva]

Are we all stuck in a time warp from 2002-2003 here?

Even injured and with little protection, Donovan looked more accurate last season than he did his first few.  Again, I'd pretty much have to say that if you don't think Donovan's a very good QB, then you should probably not bother following the team too closely for the next 5 years or so.

[Feva]

I wouldn't go as far as little mr reese here, but McNabb makes more 'bad' throws for no apparent reason than great QBs should.

And in response to Feva's question. I can only think of one QB who could do as much/more with what McNabb has had to work with. Brady.

deja vu...

[reese125]

Are we all stuck in a time warp from 2002-2003 here?

Even injured and with little protection, Donovan looked more accurate last season than he did his first few.  Again, I'd pretty much have to say that if you don't think Donovan's a very good QB, then you should probably not bother following the team too closely for the next 5 years or so.

I never said he wasnt good, I know he is good. BUT, I think if he is going to get to the status of the greats like the Tom Brady's and Mannings of the world, he needs to adjust his accuracy and work on his mechanics in a big way. This is not new news to you guys cmon.

Also, if we did put Manning back there for just one of those championship games or the Superbowl we win one of those without question. That was the main question to start...dont pull this the wrong way.

[SD_Eagle5]

Feva, Brady won two superbowls with Antwain Smith as his running back. The first SB was won with Troy Brown as their best receiver. Their defense had ONE star in Ty Law (unless you count Lawyer Milloy or Bruschi, but Bruschi wasn't the player then that he is now). That team sucked and Tom Brady was the only reason they won. don't tell me he had a good supporting cast. He had shtein.

Troy Brown had 101 catches that season and Smith rushed for over 1100 yards, that's much better than anything McNabb's had to work with aside from 2004.
Brady's the one and only player you could make the argument that's done more with less than McNabb.

[Feva]

Also, if we did put Manning back there for just one of those championship games or the Superbowl we win one of those without question. That was the main question to start...dont pull this the wrong way.

Evidenced by Manning's 3-7 playoff record despite having a future hall of famers around him.  Please.