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[PoopyfaceMcGee]

I'm starting to get more excited about the possibility of trading up for either Huff or Ngata.  Mostly because 2nd and 3rd round picks are crapshoots anyway.  I am still inclined to be greedy with the picks and not trade up, but I would be kind of pumped if they did... because it would add an impact player right away IMO.

[SunMo]

remember where you heard it first fella

[hunt]

on espn radio, they just read kiper's top 10 picks from his updated mock & he had bunkley going 8th...ngata was not in his top 10.

[ice grillin you]

nagata is overrated not in that hes gonna be a bust or anything but in terms of not being worthy of a trade up to get

huff would be definitely be worth it

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Yes.

[reese125]

nagata is overrated not in that hes gonna be a bust or anything but in terms of not being worthy of a trade up to get

huff would be definitely be worth it

Regarding Ngata, who has been compared to if not better (based on size and quickness) than Dewayne Robertson--who is a tackling machine in the middle for the Jets

As true fans of the NFL draft know, every year the "planet theory" comes into play – this theory, postulated by George Young and endorsed by Bill Parcells is as follows: there are only so many big, fat men _on the planet Earth_ who can move with agility, quickness and speed, and when a team gets a chance to take one in the draft, they will leap at that chance.

http://www.draftdaddy.com/prospects/halotiNgata.cfm

[Feva]

on espn radio, they just read kiper's top 10 picks from his updated mock & he had bunkley going 8th...ngata was not in his top 10.

Wouldn't be too bad of a thing if Kiper is actually right for once.

[ice grillin you]

Regarding Ngata, who has been compared to if not better (based on size and quickness) than Dewayne Robertson--who is a tackling machine in the middle for the Jets

no one ever said he isnt a quality prospect...i just dont think hes worth giving up a second round pick to get...especially in a fairly deep draft

[reese125]

Regarding Ngata, who has been compared to if not better (based on size and quickness) than Dewayne Robertson--who is a tackling machine in the middle for the Jets

no one ever said he isnt a quality prospect...i just dont think hes worth giving up a second round pick to get...especially in a fairly deep draft

and Im not arguing with ya...just throwing it out there because he might just be when all is said and done

[hunt]

on espn radio, they just read kiper's top 10 picks from his updated mock & he had bunkley going 8th...ngata was not in his top 10.

Wouldn't be too bad of a thing if Kiper is actually right for once.

yup.
i can't remember his entire top 10 but he had ad at #6 & cutler at #10...the rest were the same as every other mock.


hunt blah blah!

[ice grillin you]

didnt anyone see hoge two nights ago say that both young and leinert are at best second round picks and really shouldnt be taken higher than the third

[hunt]

didnt anyone see hoge two nights ago say that both young and leinert are at best second round picks and really shouldnt be taken higher than the third

i saw it...hoge loves to say stupid crap to get attention.
i forget the other player's name but hoge kept insisting that he's better than both leinart & young.



hunt blah blah!

[reese125]

Hoge is smart

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Hoge is smart

No doubt.

[PhillyPhanInDC]

Latest Mock from FoxSports:

MOCK DRAFT 7.0: Round 1

Pick    Team    Player    Pos.    School    Previous    Rising/Falling    High/Low

1.    Texans    Reggie Bush    RB    USC    1st    SAME    1st / 1st
Scouts lump Bush among some of the all-time great running back talents, including LaDainian Tomlinson, Barry Sanders, O.J. Simpson and Gale Sayers. The Texans aren't going to pass up on the opportunity to add such a rare talent.

2.    Saints    Matt Leinart    QB    USC    3rd    (+1)    2nd / 3rd
The Saints will dictate how the rest of the top 10 shakes out with their decision on the second pick of the draft. Leinart is perceived by most scouts to be the most valuable commodity remaining on the board. Potential franchise quarterbacks are rare and so the Saints will consider the former Trojan even with the addition of Drew Brees. That said, the more likely scenario has the Saints trading down slightly. New Orleans has only two first-day selections. The Titans aren't likely to move up, as they have only two first-day picks of their own. The Jets, however, with five picks on the first day (including No. 4 and No. 29 of the first round), have plenty of ammunition. This would put the Saints in position to add D'Brickashaw Ferguson at a point of better value or to fulfill another need at outside linebacker with A.J. Hawk.

3.    Titans    Vince Young    QB    Texas    9th    (+6)    3rd / 13th
Steve McNair is entering the final year of his contract and his base salary for this season is $9 million. The Titans and McNair are struggling to agree to a restructured contract, and there is no guarantee he will return to the team. The Titans appear to be quite high on Young and likely would take him here if Leinart is off the board. However, given the choice, the team seems to be leaning towards offensive coordinator Norm Chow's former protégé from Southern California. The uglier the McNair situation becomes, the more determined the Titans might be to add Leinart due to his knowledge of the offense and readiness to play immediately.

4.    Jets    D'Brickashaw Ferguson    OT    Virginia    2nd    (-2)    2nd / 6th
With five picks on the first day, including two picks in each of the first and third rounds, the Jets certainly have the ammunition to move ahead of Tennessee and select quarterback Matt Leinart if they hold him in the high regard rumored. Should the Jets elect to stand pat, however, Ferguson makes too much sense to pass on if still available.

5.    Packers    Mario Williams    DE    N.C. State    4th    (-1)    2nd / 5th
The Packers could find themselves in the enviable position of picking between the top two rated defenders of the draft. If this scenario played out, the Packers wouldn't hesitate to select Williams.

6.    49ers    A.J. Hawk    LB    Ohio State    5th    (-1)    5th / 7th
Tight end Vernon Davis would make a lot of sense here as the team attempts to add weapons for young quarterback Alex Smith, but if Hawk makes it to the sixth pick, the 49ers would be wise to bolster their defense first.

7.    Raiders    Michael Huff    DB    Texas    7th    SAME    7th / 13th
The Raiders love speed and Huff, who ran a 4.34-second 40-yard dash at the combine, has plenty of that. He also would provide the consistent open-field tackler Oakland has been searching for.

8.    Bills    Vernon Davis    TE    Maryland    6th    (-2)    6th / 10th
Most expect the Bills to draft one of the top two defensive tackles, and Brodrick Bunkley and Haloti Ngata certainly would make sense. However, if Davis were to fall into the Bills' lap, his value and immediate impact potential could be too much to pass on. USC tackle Winston Justice could also be a consideration, as his stock continues to rise as the draft approaches.

9.    Lions    Winston Justice    OT    USC    18th    (+9)    9th / 18th
Justice's superb pro day effort has his stock skyrocketing as the draft approaches. The Lions started former seventh-round pick Kelly Butler at right tackle last year and though he performed adequately, Justice would provide an immediate upgrade.

10.    Cardinals    Haloti Ngata    DT    Oregon    10th    SAME    10th / 18th
The Cardinals were among the NFL's worst last season in two areas critical to success: running the football and stopping the run. The addition of free agent Edgerrin James certainly addresses the offensive side and the 6-foot-4, 338-pound Ngata would help close defensive gaps.

11.    Rams    Brodrick Bunkley    DT    Florida State    8th    (-3)    8th / 11th
The Rams have a great many options with this pick. Outside linebacker, tight end and quarterback Jay Cutler all make sense for various reasons. However, the Rams finished 27th in run defense last season and are seeking to replace two former first-round defensive tackles in Ryan Pickett and Damione Lewis. Bunkley broke the FSU record for tackles for loss in a season with 25 and was one of the top performers at both the Senior Bowl and combine.

12.    Browns   Kamerion Wimbley    DE/OLB    Florida State    12th    SAME    12th / 18th
The two primary needs for the 3-4 alignment are a nose guard and outside linebackers. The Browns addressed both via free agency, but they are still looking for depth. Wimbley would give them a young pass rusher to soak up knowledge from newly signed Willie McGinest.

13.    Ravens    Jay Cutler    QB    Vanderbilt    13th    SAME    4th / 13th
Teams are all over the board on Cutler, which could facilitate a slight drop down the board for the former SEC star. The Ravens are looking to add some competition for Kyle Boller and have closely scouted this year's passers. Quarterbacks coach Rick Neuheisel joined the Baltimore scouting staff at the Senior Bowl, where Cutler shined. The Ravens like Justice, but his pro day performance may have vaulted him out of Baltimore's reach.

14.    Eagles    Manny Lawson    DE/OLB    N.C. State    11th    (-3)    11th / NR
Defensive coordinator Jim Johnson's defense is predicated on pressure and speed. Lawson, a collegiate defensive end, has an unbelievable combination of size (6-6, 241) and speed (4.43) and would be making the transition here to strong side outside linebacker. Lawson's workout and past production (10.5 sacks as a senior) has his stock moving up.

15.    Broncos (from Falcons)    Chad Jackson    WR    Florida    14th    (-1)    14th / 29th
Rod Smith can't last forever and former first-round pick Ashley Lelie continues to struggle with consistency. The Broncos are believed to be targeting Jackson and pass rushers Wimbley and Lawson with this pick, and will simply take their choice of who remains.

16.    Dolphins    Jimmy Williams    DB    Virginia Tech    16th    SAME    11th / 22nd
Nick Saban has shown a willingness to take a chance on inconsistent athletes in the past with Ricky Williams and Manuel Wright. Williams wasn't as dominant at his pro day as expected and struggles with consistency, but is the draft's most gifted cornerback. Some might feel the Dolphins have addressed the need for corners with the recent free-agent additions of Will Allen and Andre Goodman, but depth is unreliable.

17.    Vikings    Ernie Sims    OLB    Florida State    17th    SAME    14th / 23rd
The Vikings are looking to add linebackers with the speed to play in their Cover-2 alignment. Sims showed his 4.50 speed at the combine and has drawn comparisons to Derrick Brooks, considered by many to be the prototype Cover-2 linebacker.

18.    Cowboys    Antonio Cromartie    CB    Florida State    NR    (NR)    18th / NR
A bit of a surprise here, but Cromartie's blend of size and playmaking ability has him climbing the board. The Cowboys love to make a splash on draft day and would like to add to their secondary.

19.    Chargers    Tye Hill    CB    Clemson    19th    SAME    15th / 31st
The Chargers have certainly tried to address the cornerback position in the past, as they employ three former first rounders there. Unfortunately, Quentin Jammer, Sammy Davis and Jamar Fletcher only snared three interceptions between them in 2005. Hill's explosive speed likely assures him being selected in the top 20, even if teams are wary of his less-than-prototypical size (5-10, 185).

20.    Chiefs (from Bills)    Kelly Jennings    CB    Miami    20th    SAME    20th / NR
After releasing Eric Warfield and Dexter McCleon, the Chiefs will strongly consider top cornerback prospects with their first-round pick. Only Williams and Hill are considered locks for the top 20, however, so the Chiefs might have to reach a little to fill this need. There are other corners with more upside still on the board and Jennings' lack of size (5-11, 178) is a concern. However, the former Hurricane is considered one of the top man-to-man cornerbacks in the draft and a relatively safe pick at this point. Excluding Derrick Johnson, the Chiefs have made several early-round mistakes on defensive players in recent years and can't afford another gamble on greatness here.

21.    Patriots    Bobby Carpenter    OLB    Ohio State    21st    SAME    21st / NR
The Patriots rarely draft for need, but with a hole at linebacker and the versatile, instinctive Carpenter on the board, the pick makes too much sense not to be given strong consideration. Besides, with five picks in the top 105, the Patriots have plenty of opportunities to address other needs.