New El Stop: Broad and Pattison?

[PhillyPhanInDC]

yeah, we all know his stats aren't as good as the other guys, but you have to take into effect that he's been on a team that runs the ball probably 60% of the time, if not more. Also, he was playing behind a pro bowler (Ward) and another good WR (Burress)

Yeah, I get that, but what about Moulds? Look at the QB situation in the last two years up in Buffalo. Givens plays on a team that with a QB that is great at spreading the ball around with Branch, Watson, etc.. The more I look at Givens and his stats, the more I think he makes a lot of sense here. He is a young, big guy. He's only twenty five, and would come much cheaper than both Moulds and Randle El. I'm not trying to say Randle-El wouldn't be a good additon, but I don't think whoever lands them, will ever get their money's worth that they pay for him, which is going to be a lot.

[SunMo]

Givens is only 25?  He seems like he's been around longer than that.

Is he a possession reciever or more of a burner?

[MURP]

Moulds, Randle El, Givens, I dont care which one... but the Eagles better have one on the roster next year.

[ice grillin you]

jesus stop worrying about money and get the best players in here...with a no salary cap year and a work stoppage looming go all out to win a superbowl this year and/or next

[Feva]

jesus stop worrying about money and get the best players in here...with a no salary cap year and a work stoppage looming go all out to win a superbowl this year and/or next

Under that logic, we can just keep "the best player" who we already have in TO and since money ain't a thing... just throw the money at him to shut him up.  Happy TO, happy Eagles, Sooooper Booowwwl!!

[rjs246]

ARE would improve the STs and the receiving corps, which is why I would love to have him. The other two would be improvements with certain strengths/weaknesses/blah blah blah but I would be happy with any of them.

[Rome]

As long as I don't see Pinkston & Brown starting, I really don't care who they bring in either.

However, if they don't bring in someone who's better (in Pinkston's case) or more experienced (in Brown's case) then what the hell's the point of signing anyone?  They could draft Santonio Holmes and spend the money they'd blow on a WR on defensive help.

Just saying...

[MadMarchHare]

As long as I don't see Pinkston & Brown starting, I really don't care who they bring in either.

However, if they don't bring in someone who's better (in Pinkston's case) or more experienced (in Brown's case) then what the hell's the point of signing anyone?  They could draft Santonio Holmes and spend the money they'd blow on a WR on defensive help.

Just saying...

DING DING DING.  None of these guys are elite talents.  And, as I've said before, I'll be shocked if they land any of them.  Or even try hard.

[SunMo]

as I've said before, they don't need elite talent.  they just need good players that are capable WR, they didn't have those before TO came.  Brown/Pinkston/Moulevns El/Lewis would be a good WR corp

[ice grillin you]

greg lewis can die from heat exhaustion in traning camp for all i care

i agree they dont need elite talent at wr...especially if reggie takes a nice rookie to sophomore step forward...but they need to add at least one very good wr

[PhillyPhanInDC]

Givens is only 25? He seems like he's been around longer than that.

Is he a possession reciever or more of a burner?

Givens is only four years removed from Notre Dame. He was born in 1980. He is not much of a burner from what I have seen of him, more of a possesion guy. He is sure handed, and can get some YAC. He is a big dude, not much of an injury history. He is not a pure number one guy like Moulds is, but Randle-El isn't either. Based on what I have seen of ARE's career, I wouldn't think he could be out a 100% healthy Pinky for the number two spot, so why pay him what'll probably be three times as much money?

More info on all the guys from Scout.com

David Givens
Ht: 6-0 Wt: 215
Position:  WR 
Date of Birth:  8/16/1980
Experience:  4
College:  Notre Dame

Biography:
2005 - New England:
How Acquired: Drafted by the Patriots in the seventh round of the 2002 NFL draft (253rd overall).

Personal: Born David Lamar Givens, August 16, 1980 in Youngstown, Ohio. Givens played 8 positions earning three letters in football. Lettered in track (sprint and weight events) four times, earning team MVP honors as senior. He majored in Design while attending Notre Dame University. Givens has four brothers and sisters.

2004 - New England:
Scouting Report: David Givens is a deceptively quick receiver who has improved in each of his three seasons at the professional level. Givens uses his hands well to catch the ball. His route running skills have improved, though he remains inconsistent at times. Occasionally has trouble against press coverage at the line of scrimmage, but will fight a defensive back for position. Generally speaking, Givens is not a significant threat in the vertical passing game. He has improved his ability to create separation and will go across the middle for the tough catch.

Eirc Moulds
Ht: 6-2 Wt: 205
Position:  WR 
Date of Birth:  7/17/1973
Experience:  10
College:  Mississippi State

Biography:
2003 - Buffalo:
Once again Eric Moulds will be counted on to be the Bills primary pass option though this year he'll likely be paired with Josh Reed who is replacing Peerless Price who was traded in the offseason for Atlanta's 1st Round pick (23rd overall) in the 2003 NFL Draft....Had an outstanding 2002 season with his 3rd Pro Bowl since 1998.... Collected 1287 yards on 100 catches and 10 TDs...Drafted by the Buffalo Bills in the 1st round (24th overall) in 1996.

2002 - Buffalo:
Moulds is one of the top receivers in the NFL. In six NFL seasons, the Mississippi State alum has averaged 15.1 yards per catch. Moulds has caught 342 passes for 5165 yards.

Antwaan Randle-El (a little outdated, edited a bit because of length)
Ht: 5-10 Wt: 190
Position:  WR 
Date of Birth:  8/17/1979
Experience:  4
College:  Indiana

Biography:
2004 - Pittsburgh: -
2003:
The 2003 season proved that Antwaan Randle El had truly developed into an accomplished slot receiver and would continue to be the dynamic all-purpose athlete that he demonstrated his rookie season in 2002. Randle El finished the 2003 season leading the AFC and second in the NFL with his punt return total of 542 yards and ranked third in the NFL for punt return average with 12.0 yards. Antwaan's two punt returns for touchdowns were for 84 yards against St. Louis (second-longest in franchise history) and 53 yards against Arizona. He also had a 51-yard return against Oakland. His two punt returns for touchdowns tied franchise season records held by Ray Matthews (1952) and Louis Lipps (1985) and also tied him with Dante Hall, of Kansas City, for the NFL-highest in 2003.
2002: (Receiving) 47 RECs for 489 YDs, 2 TDs - 10.4 AVG. (Rushing) 19 ATTs for 134 YDs, 0 TDs - 7.1 AVG. 1 FUM.
Antwaan no doubt lived up to Steeler expectations of him as the slot recevier and return man, as well as a multi-purpose weapon to use in the Mularkey offense. A high point of his season may have been the October game at Cincinatti where he had a kickoff return of 99 yards for a TD and a reverse for 24 yards. In short, Antwaan delivered as far as demonstrating the over-all offensive potential that he showed in college, including a much-needed boost to the kick-return game. 2003 should be interesting.

Antwaan Randle El was drafted in the second round out of Indiana. A quarterback in college, Antwaan plays receiver and punt/kick returner for the Steelers. The move was not a surprise for Randle El. In fact, he played wide receiver in the Senior Bowl since it was obvious that the pros would be projecting him at that position. Although undersized at 5-9 and not having the fastest 40 time, it was obvious in 2002 summer camp that Randle El had the necessary tools to be a successful wideout in the league - good hands, quick moves for YAC's , and an understanding of the position.

At Indiana as a quarterback, he passed for 7489 yards in 44 games with a 49.8 completion percentage for 42 touchdowns on 1060 attempts. He rushed for 3895 yards and 44 scores on 857 carries (4.5 avg). He is the only player in NCAA Division I-A history to pass for 6000 yards and rush for 3000 yards and also the only player to pass for 40 touchdowns and score 40 touchdowns. With a career offensive total of 11,384 yards and 86 touchdowns, his offensive average per game was an almost unbelievable 258.73 yards per game. Antwaan was also a punt returner in college and punted when called upon.

He was an All-America and All-Big Ten Conference first team selection as an all-purpose back(The NFL Draft Report), and a national first-team honor recipient (Football Writers Association) his senior year.


2002:
Antwaan no doubt lived up to Steeler expectations of him as the slot recevier and return man, as well as a multi-purpose weapon to use in the Mularkey offense. A high point of his season may have been the October game at Cincinatti where he had a kickoff return of 99 yards for a TD and a reverse for 24 yards. In short, Antwaan delivered as far as demonstrating the over-all offensive potential that he showed in college, including a much-needed boost to the kick-return game. 2003 should be interesting.

Antwaan Randle El was drafted in the second round out of Indiana. A quarterback in college, Antwaan plays receiver and punt/kick returner for the Steelers. The move was not a surprise for Randle El.

[MadMarchHare]

Agree they don't need elite talent.  But the guys listed are going to want elite money.  Which is why they'll be playing elsewhere next season.

[mussa]

I agree with the people who wouldn't mind having either one of them, but to turn down a multi-talented guy like randel el is foolish.  this guy is young and has alot of game left in him.  with a pass happy offense, man i drool at the possibilities of this guy.  not only is he a burner...who can catch the bomb, but he's a quick shifty guy who can get open quick on the short plays and make people miss. 
Not only catching, but the man can throw the ball like a champ, on the run no doubt.  remember freddie to westbrook?  oh and he's one of the top 3 punt returners in the league.  something else we need and has crippled our offense last year, field position. so any of you whinning about, he's gonna command top dollars. who the farg cares.  i'd rather have a proven veteran catching balls and returning punts than some "new guy".  i think he could possibly turn into a steve smith/santana moss type receiver if given the right oppourtunity.
im not confident on reid persueing a run game this year, so the more talent, the better at wideout.

[Wingspan]

randel el is not multitalented. he's pretty 1 dimesional...which is why he's only a #3 guy.

[SunMo]

randel el is not multitalented. he's pretty 1 dimesional...which is why he's only a #3 guy.

he was a #2 for pittsburgh, he can catch, run, throw, return punts.  that's a huge dimension if he's only 1 dimensional