The Start Of Free Agency To Be Delayed? (CBA Extension Talk)

Started by PhillyPhreak54, February 14, 2006, 02:43:04 PM

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hunt

lemonade was a popular drink and it still is

ice grillin you

I'm pretty sure it's not.

i hope youre right but about a month ago he was saying that the birds would be right in the middle of the nfl...even without adding additional money he has them up higher than that...add in six mil more and they are like 5th

i guess tho with all the slicin and dicin that will be done a bunch of teams could jump over them...knocking them down into the middle of the pack
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phattymatty

Quote from: hunt on March 01, 2006, 01:34:28 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2341755
list of possible cap casualties

i don;t really study this cap shtein very much, but for example, the first guy on that list, Calvin Pace.  Why would a team get charged by releasing him?

PhillyGirl

Quote from: ice grillin you on March 01, 2006, 01:38:23 PM
I'm pretty sure it's not.

i hope youre right but about a month ago he was saying that the birds would be right in the middle of the nfl...even without adding additional money he has them up higher than that...add in six mil more and they are like 5th

i guess tho with all the slicin and dicin that will be done a bunch of teams could jump over them...knocking them down into the middle of the pack

Its not. He is still part of the team, so his cap counts his salary until he is officially released.
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Wingspan

Quote from: ice grillin you on March 01, 2006, 12:03:42 PM
baseball is more popular than is ever been and as good a product as ever...it hasnt been hurt much less killed

links?

pirates, and royal fans would disagree
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Wingspan

Quote from: Sun_Mo on March 01, 2006, 12:11:10 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on March 01, 2006, 12:06:52 PM
where large market teams dominate. May the richest, brutiest brutes win.

Florida Marlins, Chicago Whitesox, Anahiem Angels

which one hasnt bought a world series of not from a large market again?
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SunMo

Quotewhich one hasnt bought a world series of not from a large market again?


in 2002, Anaheim's payroll was 15th at 62.7 million

in 2003, Florida's payroll was 26th at 48.4 million

in 2005, Chicago's payroll was 13th at 75.2 million
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PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: phattymatty on March 01, 2006, 02:02:12 PM
i don;t really study this cap shtein very much, but for example, the first guy on that list, Calvin Pace.  Why would a team get charged by releasing him?

His accelerated pro-rated signing bonus is greater than his 2006 salary + 2006-only portion of signing bonus.

ie:  McDougle would cost the Eagles $400,000 more to cut than to keep, because his the remaining part of his pro-rated signing bonus is $400,000 more than his total cap number (2006 portion of signing bonus + 2006 salary).

Wingspan

Quote from: Sun_Mo on March 01, 2006, 02:26:40 PM
Quotewhich one hasnt bought a world series of not from a large market again?


in 2002, Anaheim's payroll was 15th at 62.7 million

in 2003, Florida's payroll was 26th at 48.4 million

in 2005, Chicago's payroll was 13th at 75.2 million

florida's payroll was 63M in 03

still the other two teams there are from larger markets, and it's 3 out of the last 10 years....
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SunMo

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SunMo

QuoteOwners to meet ahead of Thursday deadline
Associated Press


NEW YORK -- NFL owners will try Thursday to find labor peace before the start of free agency, hoping to avoid the mass dumping of veterans for salary-cap reasons.

The owners will meet in New York, seeking to find a way toward an agreement with the players union that could add $10 million to $15 million to a 2006 salary cap that currently is projected at about $95 million. Without it, some teams could be forced into wholesale cuts to get beneath the cap by midnight. Free agency starts Friday.

Three days of talks between the league and the NFL Players Association to extend the agreement that runs out in 2008 ended Tuesday with the sides far apart on the percentage of league revenues earmarked for its players. Gene Upshaw, the union's executive director, said the league is offering 56.2 percent of its total revenue for the players, almost four points lower than the union's.

"Our number has to start with a six," Upshaw said.

But beyond the numbers is an issue that has divided the owners for two years: revenue sharing among the teams.

Under the current system, some teams make far more than others in ancillary income, ranging from local radio rights to stadium naming rights and advertising. The lower revenue teams say that forces them to commit as much as 70 percent of that money to the players while teams with more outside money contribute far less, giving the high-revenue teams more available cash for upfront bonuses to free agents.

The NFL said in a statement after talks broke off that revenue sharing won't be discussed at Thursday's meeting.

Still, it is bound to come up during a meeting that on the surface is considered a strategy session to determine the owners' next move. Labor negotiations often have a way of being moved forward by deadlines, and revenue sharing is considered a critical part of the formula.

Under the current agreement, 2006 is scheduled to be the last year with a salary cap. An uncapped year in 2007 means new rules that will force teams and agents to change their plans this year and could keep a lot of teams out of the free-agent market entirely.

"It might mean that no rookies get signed because no one is sure of the long-term ramifications," said Tom Condon, the agent for a number of the game's top players.

Even more urgent are salary-cap ramifications for many teams, which anticipated a labor agreement and planned for a much bigger ceiling. Washington, for example, could be as much as $25 million over after signings over the past few years that anticipated a salary cap figure well over $100 million.

The ramifications of a lower than anticipated cap were evident Wednesday, when some high-priced veterans were cut. Among them were defensive end Trevor Pryce and running back Mike Anderson of Denver, the team's leading rusher last season. Denver also cut tight end Jeb Putzier.

Buffalo, meanwhile, released defensive tackle Sam Adams and Carolina released three veterans: running back Stephen Davis, defensive tackle Brentson Buckner and kicker returner Rod Smart, "He Hate Me" of old XFL days.

Miami cut left tackle Damion McIntosh, saving $3.8 million against the cut. The Dolphins are a prime example of a team that needs a new labor agreement: They are estimated to be about $9 million over a $95 million cap, but would be under it if the agreement is reached.

Others seem ready for whatever happens.

"We're in pretty good shape," New York Giants general manager Ernie Accorsi said Wednesday. "They're going to give us a cap number and we'll be ready for it. You always prepare for a worst case, no matter what the situation. You never want to be surprised by something negative, only something positive."

Accorsi said he's also not worried about new rules. He said those contingencies are covered in the contracts of two young Pro Bowl players -- tight end Jeremy Shockey and defensive end Osi Umenyiora -- that the Giants extended last fall.

But others are in a different situation, which could mean wholesale cuts of big-name players at midnight Thursday. What happens in the meetings may determine that.
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SD_Eagle5

QuoteNFL | Cap set at $94.5 million
Wed, 1 Mar 2006 19:06:59 -0800

The Associated Press reports the NFL has set the salary cap for the 2006 season at $94.5 million. League owners will meet in New York on Thursday, March 2, in an attempt to work out a new collective bargaining agreement. A new CBA could add anywhere from $10 million to $15 million to the salary cap. Teams also have an additional six hours to terminate contracts and request waivers on players. The original deadline was set for 4 p.m. EST on Thursday, March 2, but has now been pushed back to 10 p.m.