Sixers Season 3

Started by MURP, February 02, 2006, 09:15:02 AM

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PoopyfaceMcGee

I think we should just let him get really old, as his quickness dwindles away and attendance continues to slowly drop, as the novelty has completely worn off for Philly fans.  That way, the team can be poor and suck complete ass by the time he leaves or retires.  So, they won't even have the money to rebuild.

That would be the coolest.  While we're at it, let's trade away some more 1st round picks for crappy players with awful contracts!  I mean... that's the way to build the team Billy the King style!  w0ot!


Seriously, thinking this team can still win it all with Iverson at the center is just delusional.

Rome

Quote from: FFatPatt on February 21, 2006, 10:52:54 AM
Seriously, thinking this team can still win it all with Iverson at the center is just delusional.

I know what you were saying here but still, the thought of Iverson playing the center position makes me chuckle.

PoopyfaceMcGee

Haha... Why not try it, if you're going to keep him?

hunt

Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 21, 2006, 09:49:39 AM
Quote from: mhunt on February 21, 2006, 08:13:21 AM
maggette is a borderline all-star who plays well on both ends of the floor...that's the best they'll get for a1.
he's lightyears better than hornacek, lang, or perry so you're all way off with the barkley trade comparisons.

if you expect to get someone better than maggette for a1, you're going to be very disappointed when they finally trade him.

Hornacek > Maggette

wow...you're dead wrong on this one.
hornacek had one 20 ppg season in his career....one...other than that year, he was a 15-17 ppg spot up shooter who did little else.
maggette is a better scorer and a much better defender...it's not close.
lemonade was a popular drink and it still is

hunt

Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 21, 2006, 10:13:39 AM
Quote from: phattymatty on February 21, 2006, 09:57:45 AM
[No way.  Hornacek better than Maggette? 

I think you're forgetting how good Hornacek was. What do you gain by subtracting AI and gaining Maggette? Less talent but a little bit of youth. He's under contract for another 5 years at $7 million per.

he's under contract for 3 more years (same as iverson) & $7 mill per year is a bargain for a player like maggette. 
lemonade was a popular drink and it still is

PoopyfaceMcGee

Maggette's overall career shooting %, 3pt%,  and FT% are all better than Iverson's.

SD_Eagle5

Quote from: mhunt on February 21, 2006, 11:30:06 AM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 21, 2006, 09:49:39 AM
Quote from: mhunt on February 21, 2006, 08:13:21 AM
maggette is a borderline all-star who plays well on both ends of the floor...that's the best they'll get for a1.
he's lightyears better than hornacek, lang, or perry so you're all way off with the barkley trade comparisons.

if you expect to get someone better than maggette for a1, you're going to be very disappointed when they finally trade him.

Hornacek > Maggette

wow...you're dead wrong on this one.
hornacek had one 20 ppg season in his career....one...other than that year, he was a 15-17 ppg spot up shooter who did little else.
maggette is a better scorer and a much better defender...it's not close.

Hornacek was a better defender than Maggette. He also had a .496 career shooting % whereas Maggette's is .448.

Quote from: Jerome99RIP on February 21, 2006, 10:50:42 AM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 21, 2006, 10:44:30 AM
That line of thinking worked so well when we traded Barkley away.

Dude, you can't use something in the past that happened and say that the same result will happen in the future.

That trade happened more than ten years ago with completely different circumstances surrounding it, so comparing that scenario to this is retarded.

We have no idea what the ramifications of trading Iverson would be. There are a host of variables to consider. Whatever the case, though, the Sixers aren't winning anything with the group of players that they have assembled. Trading your best player isn't necessarily a palatable option but if it's the only one you've got, you do what you have to do.


What is the use of history if it teaches us nothing? How is this 'completely different'? They're both undersized players for their positions, are both controversial, are both the centerpieces of their teams,  are roughly the same age (give or take a few years). And just like AI, we gave Barkely away for the sake of giving him away. That move set this franchise back 10 years.

hunt

#322
well, i'm not claiming that maggette is better than iverson...just that he'd be a nice piece if they decided to rebuild and trade a1.
obviously this deal can't happen now since wilcox was already traded but this is the type of deal they need to make...get 1 young, borderline all-star and another decent young player for a1 and they'd be on the right path.


and stop saying hornacek was better than maggette....especially defensively.  :-D


lemonade was a popular drink and it still is

MURP


Rome

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Quote from: mhunt on February 21, 2006, 11:42:37 AM
well, i'm not claiming that maggette is better than iverson...just that he'd be a nice piece if they decided to rebuild and trade a1.
obviously this deal can't happen now since wilcox was already traded but this is the type of deal they need to make...get 1 young, borderline all-star and another decent young player for a1 and they'd be on the right path.


and stop saying hornacek was better than maggette....especially defensively.  :-D

Hornacek = Kyle Korver.

PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: MURP on February 21, 2006, 11:48:56 AM
for comparisons

Dude, Hornacek's better than Maggette at everything!  Please ban me, I have nothing to contribute.!

phattymatty

Quote from: FFatPatt on February 21, 2006, 12:04:39 PM
Dude, Hornacek's better than Maggette at everything!  Please ban me, I have nothing to contribute.!

he's got like 600 more games.  must mean he stays a lot healthier.

Rome

Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 21, 2006, 11:38:39 AM
What is the use of history if it teaches us nothing?

"Those who ignore history are condemned to repeat it."

Yeah, I know the quote.  The only problem in applying it to this situation is that this scenario has the potential to be rectified in a better way than the Barkley trade.  It's not making the same mistake over just because a trade is being contemplated.

You're ASSuming that King couldn't get decent value for Iverson by using the Barkley trade as a barometer for potential success.  That is blatant illogic because King didn't make the Barkley trade, someone else did.

Comparing apples to oranges might be the way you analyze a situation but it's certainly not a legitimate one, Homer.

hunt

hah!  okay, i admit i was wrong.  hornacek clearly had more points, assists, etc in his 14 year career than maggette does in the first 5 1/2 seasons of his career.

keep a1!
lemonade was a popular drink and it still is

PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: phattymatty on February 21, 2006, 12:08:38 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on February 21, 2006, 12:04:39 PM
Dude, Hornacek's better than Maggette at everything!  Please ban me, I have nothing to contribute.!

he's got like 600 more games.  must mean he stays a lot healthier.

GET HORNACEK!