Sixers Season 3

Started by MURP, February 02, 2006, 09:15:02 AM

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hunt

Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 20, 2006, 11:28:02 PM
Quote from: phattymatty on February 20, 2006, 10:56:59 PM
i wouldn't go that far, charles's was the worst in philly history in my opinion.

Magette and Wilcox are garbage and will be getting less than 5 minutes a game a few years from now if they're even in the league at all. 

maggette has averaged 20+ ppg the past 3 seasons...i'm pretty sure he'll be in the league.
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SD_Eagle5

Quote from: mhunt on February 21, 2006, 08:13:21 AM
maggette is a borderline all-star who plays well on both ends of the floor...that's the best they'll get for a1.
he's lightyears better than hornacek, lang, or perry so you're all way off with the barkley trade comparisons.

if you expect to get someone better than maggette for a1, you're going to be very disappointed when they finally trade him.

Hornacek > Maggette

phattymatty

Quote from: mhunt on February 21, 2006, 08:13:21 AM
maggette is a borderline all-star who plays well on both ends of the floor...that's the best they'll get for a1.
he's lightyears better than hornacek, lang, or perry so you're all way off with the barkley trade comparisons.

agreed. 

phattymatty

Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 20, 2006, 11:28:02 PM
If this trade would have happened it would have surpassed the Barkley trade by far in terms of stupidity.  At least the Sixers got Hornacek out of it who has a fine player for quite a few years.  Magette and Wilcox are garbage and will be getting less than 5 minutes a game a few years from now if they're even in the league at all. 

No way.  Hornacek better than Maggette?  He's been a really good player the last couple of years, one of the main people to turn that franchise around actually.   And with Wilcox we would have gotten another guy who can throw down some nice dunks. 

The more I think about it, I agreed with hunt, I don't think we get a better deal than that.  Also remember, these guys have been playing for the Clippers, so most likely the season they leave they'll both become all-stars. 

Granted, I don't want to see AI leave at all, but if it has to happen, not many teams would be able to offer better than that.

Sgt PSN

Fine, then chalk it up for personal bias.  I don't like the dude. 

SD_Eagle5

Quote from: phattymatty on February 21, 2006, 09:57:45 AM
[No way.  Hornacek better than Maggette? 

I think you're forgetting how good Hornacek was. What do you gain by subtracting AI and gaining Maggette? Less talent but a little bit of youth. He's under contract for another 5 years at $7 million per.

phattymatty

I didn't look into what any of the salaries are, and yeah that's not too great, but talent-wise, i don't see any team being able to give us maggette-wilcox.

SD_Eagle5

Quote from: phattymatty on February 21, 2006, 10:15:48 AM
I didn't look into what any of the salaries are, and yeah that's not too great, but talent-wise, i don't see any team being able to give us maggette-wilcox.

Like I said, nobody is going to give us close to his worth, so what is the use of getting rid of him? I hate the 'getting rid of him just to get rid of him' line of thinking.

PhillyGirl

Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 21, 2006, 10:19:46 AM
Quote from: phattymatty on February 21, 2006, 10:15:48 AM
I didn't look into what any of the salaries are, and yeah that's not too great, but talent-wise, i don't see any team being able to give us maggette-wilcox.

Like I said, nobody is going to give us close to his worth, so what is the use of getting rid of him? I hate the 'getting rid of him just to get rid of him' line of thinking.

The only thinking that makes people like hunt or rome happy.  ::)
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Rome

I want the Sixers to get better as a team, PG.  Finally moving Iverson would be the first step in accomplishing that task.

They have to rebuild.  It's just that simple.



phattymatty

Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 21, 2006, 10:19:46 AM
Like I said, nobody is going to give us close to his worth, so what is the use of getting rid of him? I hate the 'getting rid of him just to get rid of him' line of thinking.

i don't necessarily want to get rid of him either, AI's my favorite Sixer ever, other than Charles.  but it's becoming painfully obvious that we're not going to be able to build a team around him.  he's not going to end his career as a sixer.  so we might as well get something while we still can.

SD_Eagle5

Quote from: Jerome99RIP on February 21, 2006, 10:37:13 AM
I want the Sixers to get better as a team, PG.  Finally moving Iverson would be the first step in accomplishing that task.

They have to rebuild.  It's just that simple.




That line of thinking worked so well when we traded Barkley away.

Mad-Lad

This thread's hilarious.  I never thought i'd hear people argue over the better NBA player: Magette or Hornacek?  :-D

Rome

Quote from: phattymatty on February 21, 2006, 10:38:12 AM
but it's becoming painfully obvious that we're not going to be able to build a team around him.  he's not going to end his career as a sixer.  so we might as well get something while we still can.

Exactly right.  Others might want to wait until he has no value left whatsoever.  I don't understand that line of thinking.

Whatever, though.  With him or without him, they aren't going to win anything anytime soon.  That's why starting over with whatever you can get for him is a better option.

Rome

Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 21, 2006, 10:44:30 AM
That line of thinking worked so well when we traded Barkley away.

Dude, you can't use something in the past that happened and say that the same result will happen in the future.

That trade happened more than ten years ago with completely different circumstances surrounding it, so comparing that scenario to this is retarded.

We have no idea what the ramifications of trading Iverson would be.  There are a host of variables to consider.  Whatever the case, though, the Sixers aren't winning anything with the group of players that they have assembled.  Trading your best player isn't necessarily a palatable option but if it's the only one you've got, you do what you have to do.