Obama Continues Bush's Illegal Drone Surveillance

[JTrotter Fan]

That doesn't matter.  YOU can't do a damn thing about getting him impeached.  YOU have no say when it comes to that. 

So i ask again, what can YOU do about it. 

Here is what people that actually have some power want to try to do. 

Impeach

[Rome]

So much anger...

[JTrotter Fan]

So much anger...

It's from listening to the whiny Cowboys fans the past two days.  It's been terrible.

[Rome]

My buddy is a federal corrections officer and told me the Crips... err... I mean COWBOYS fans at the prison didn't take Sunday's demolition very well.



One of the associates at the office here has a husband who's a Cowboys fan.  He usually stops in to say hello and to talk about football when he's here at the office on Mondays.  He was here yesterday, but surprisingly, he didn't stop in to say hello.  Imagine that?!

[JTrotter Fan]

It's been brutal.  They are mostly in a "Parcells Must Go" mode right now.  I'm sorry, but the Cowboys players have been underachieving as of late.  It's not Parcells fault. 

On the other hand, they are still gloating about beating the Birds both times and that is sickening.  But when they are sitting at home with me this winter, it won't mean a damn thing!  Ha ha and ha!

[Butchers Bill]

Uh-oh.  Sorry to pee on the "impeachment" parade.  Looks like Clinton and Carter did the same thing.  I guess its legal?

http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/eo/eo-12949.htm

http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/eo12139.htm

[MadMarchHare]

Gee, at the bottom it seems to suggest the Senate be involved.  That's a little different than what doofus did.

[Rome]

Uh-oh.  Sorry to pee on the "impeachment" parade.  Looks like Clinton and Carter did the same thing.  I guess its legal?

http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/eo/eo-12949.htm

http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/eo12139.htm

Umm... are Clinton & Carter still in office?  No.

Bush is, however.

[Butchers Bill]

Umm... are Clinton & Carter still in office?  No.

Bush is, however.

The point is that this seems to have been an acceptable practice for some time.  You don't think the Republicans would have tried to impeach Clinton over this?  Christ, they made a mockery of the impeachment process for a lot less than this (if this was illegal).

[MadMarchHare]

"If we live in a free country, then why isn't the FBI, the President, whoever free to monitor whatever they like?
Does freedom in our country really only extend to some people?
I have never thought about this until now, since I am not greatly concerned by it, but the thought came to my mind when I saw someone reference the idea that the FBI was improperly monitoring some groups. I was wondering what, in a world of freedom, consitutes "improper monitoring." Why isn't the FBI (or anyone else) free to monitor whatever they like?
So tell me, why does freedom only extend to some people and some groups, but not to all?"

http://www.baptistboard.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=18;t=003928;p=0

It's galling that there are people this farging stupid in this country.

[Rome]

Religious zealots...

[Diomedes]

link

One of the judges that sits on the secret Federal spy court FISA, which handles requests for wiretaps like those Bush has "authorized" extra-judicially, has resigned in protest over this scandal.

[PhillyPhreak54]

Hypothetically speaking, as I heard someone on Wolf Blitzers show say last night, if this is an impeachable offense who would take over as the president. My knowledge of the executive branch of the govt and the impeachment process is not up to snuff.

[Geowhizzer]

Hypothetically speaking, as I heard someone on Wolf Blitzers show say last night, if this is an impeachable offense who would take over as the president. My knowledge of the executive branch of the govt and the impeachment process is not up to snuff.

Cheney, unless he is impeached before or at the same time (see historical footnote below).

Here is the current line of succession:
The Vice President- Dick Cheney
Speaker of the House-  Dennis Hastert
President pro tempore of the Senate- Ted Stevens
Secretary of State- Condoleezza Rice
Secretary of the Treasury- John Snow
Secretary of Defense- Donald H. Rumsfeld
Attorney General- Alberto Gonzales
Secretary of the Interior- Gale A. Norton
Secretary of Agriculture- Mike Johanns
Secretary of Commerce- Carlos Gutierrez
Secretary of Labor- Elaine Chao
Secretary of Health and Human Services- Mike Leavitt
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development- Alphonso Jackson
Secretary of Transportation- Norman Yoshio Mineta
Secretary of Energy- Samuel Bodman
Secretary of Education- Margaret Spellings
Secretary of Veterans Affairs- Jim Nicholson
Secretary of Homeland Security- Michael Chertoff


Historical Footnote: Just before Watergate, Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew resigned due to an unrelated scandal (taking bribes- he ended up pleading nolo contendere to tax evasion and was placed on probation).  Nixon picked then-House Republican Leader Gerald Ford to be the new VP, and Ford was confirmed by the Senate (worked just like Cabinet selections).  When Nixon resigned in August of 1974, Ford automatically assumed the presidency.

[PhillyPhreak54]

Thanks, Whiz.

I knew that the VP was the successor for every other reason but wasn't sure on impeachment. And in this situation, the way Cheney is speaking, it sounds like he's as culpable as Bush.