Obama Continues Bush's Illegal Drone Surveillance

Rome · December 19, 2005, 02:18:18 PM

I can't make up my mind whether that farger is clueless or simply really adept at looking that way.

stalker · December 19, 2005, 09:09:09 PM

Quote from: Geowhizzer on December 17, 2005, 03:28:57 PM
Here's what I know so far:

1. McCain is staying in the national spotlight. He's almost definitely going to run.
2. Mitt Romney (gov. Mass) just announced that he will not run for re-election. Has indicated a desire to run for president in 2008 before, and this may be a sign that he's preparing to do so.
3. Rice has not publicly shown an inclination to run, but could be preparing to do so behind the scenes. Her "promotion" to Secretary of State in Bush's second term is much higher in profile, and could be a springboard.

Other than media speculation, I'm not sure about Giulianni. However, he is still occasionally grabbing the spotlight, so it could definitely be a possibility.

Late in '06 we'll start seeing people publicly declaring their intentions.

Rice said today on CNN that she has no desire to be president. Her next goal is to be commissioner of the NFL. I don't care how politically incorrect it is, THAT IS NOT A WOMANS JOB!

Anyway, I digress, I believe JC Watts of Oklahoma (former Sooner option QB) is a likely republican canidate.

Geowhizzer · December 19, 2005, 09:22:49 PM

I thought that Watts could be the one to become the first African-American to become President, but I don't think that he'd be a good candidate in 2008, at least to have a chance of winning. He's been out of the loop for awhile (which could actually be a positive, ala Carter in '76, if played the right way), but also doesn't have the star power of McCain and Giuliani.

Overall, I think that the 2008 election is the Democrats' to win, provided that they don't screw up royally in their nomination and electoral process.

Which they did in 2004.

stalker · December 19, 2005, 10:02:15 PM

It's about time we win the Whitehouse.

Diomedes · December 20, 2005, 10:42:21 AM

Quote from: BushSecondly, there are such things as roving wiretaps. Now, by the way, any time you hear the United States government talking about wiretap, it requires -- a wiretap requires a court order. Nothing has changed, by the way. When we're talking about chasing down terrorists, we're talking about getting a court order before we do so. It's important for our fellow citizens to understand, when you think Patriot Act, constitutional guarantees are in place when it comes to doing what is necessary to protect our homeland, because we value the Constitution.

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Sgt PSN · December 20, 2005, 10:52:59 AM

Quote from: stalker on December 19, 2005, 10:02:15 PM
It's about time we win the Whitehouse.

Wow. Looks like we were wrong about you the whole time. There's no way you and Stillupfront are the same person. Why, not with you being black and all. We've all terribly misjudged you.

Dumbass

MURP · December 20, 2005, 11:47:15 AM

how Bush is not impeached is beyond me. Torture prisons, lying to start a war, illegally spying on his own people... and that is just the start. The list could go on forever. What a disgrace.

George Bush: "If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier - just so long I'm the dictator." December 18, 2000

MadMarchHare · December 20, 2005, 11:59:34 AM

And that list just includes the offenses we know about....

Diomedes · December 20, 2005, 12:08:37 PM

Ooh, ooh. A new game.

Add to the list:

Bush has taken more vacations than any other president.
Secretly paying journalists to promote White House policies on U.S. news channels and newspapers.
Appointing patently unqualified campaign cronies and good 'ol boys to positions of National Security.
Paying private firms millions to plant "positive" articles in Iraq newspapers.

MadMarchHare · December 20, 2005, 12:13:36 PM

Spying on US citizens in the name of national security.
Handing out no-bid contracts to the companies of political insiders (i.e. Halliburton).
Leaking the name of a CIA operative as punishment for speaking out against policy.

Rome · December 20, 2005, 12:35:17 PM

Dumbya = Fulgencio Batista.

JTrotter Fan · December 20, 2005, 12:45:34 PM

You gonna impeach him to get Cheney in there? Yeah, nice work..get someone just as shady in there.

Just live out the next three years and worry about the next one. You are an ant and Bush is the shoe.

MadMarchHare · December 20, 2005, 12:46:29 PM

Well, I can't argue with you there, Waco.

Geowhizzer · December 20, 2005, 01:42:31 PM

Quote from: MURP on December 20, 2005, 11:47:15 AM
how Bush is not impeached is beyond me. Torture prisons, lying to start a war, illegally spying on his own people... and that is just the start. The list could go on forever. What a disgrace.

George Bush: "If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier - just so long I'm the dictator." December 18, 2000

Pretty easy explanation there:

Impeachment process starts in the House of Representatives. According to the House of Representative website, the current make up is 231 Republicans, 202 Democrats, 1 Independent, 1 Vacancy.

Unless there is a party turnover in the 2006 Congressional elections, Bush isn't getting impeached, short of pulling a gun and shooting Hillary Clinton or Herry Reid on nationwide TV.

Even then it would be iffy. Probably blame it on national security needs.

Rome · December 20, 2005, 01:55:19 PM

Quote from: The Waco Kid on December 20, 2005, 12:45:34 PM
You gonna impeach him to get Cheney in there? Yeah, nice work..get someone just as shady in there.

Just live out the next three years and worry about the next one. You are an ant and Bush is the shoe.

Aren't you the same guy who spends his time telling us to do something about it or stop whining?