Obama Continues Bush's Illegal Drone Surveillance

[Cerevant]

You are a high school kid right? When you are a man talk to me.

Yes, it is so mature that you create another user to log on to a board and talk about yourself.

[Diomedes]

Trust the government.  Don't ask questions.  Don't worry about the erosion of civil liberties.  Here, just step into the showers...

[stillupfront]

Add it up, folks.

Pentagon spying on law abiding, peaceful citizens--even classifying them as a "threat"--simply because they disagree with the administration.  WHAT?  Bush "authorizing" NSA to spy on citizens.  American citizens detained without a warrant, charges, or access to legal counsel, and held for indefinite amounts of time in secret locations. Way to over simplify  The White House secretly paying for reporters to produce op ed pieces in support of their policies, and the Pentagon paying millions to private firms to plant postivie spin articles isn Iraqi newspapers.Are you upset over stealing Democratic strategies?  The Feds can look at what book you take from libraries, and search your home without informing you until a month later. 

In the so called land of the free.  I'm astounded by how easily most people take all this in stride, assuming that the government knows what's best, and should be trusted.  Fools.

If the Patriot Act is thwarting terrorism it may be a neccessary evil in the war on terrorism

[SD_Eagle5]

Hey Wingspan, remember this thread?

cheney = count dooku

Rumsfeld=Grand Moff Tarkin

[Rome]

Trust the government.  Don't ask questions.  Don't worry about the erosion of civil liberties.  Here, just step into the showers...

Fight!

[Rome]

Hey Wingspan, remember this thread?

cheney = count dooku

Rumsfeld=Grand Moff Tarkin

Padme Amidala = Hottie From "Closer."

Ha!

[Wingspan]

Hey Wingspan, remember this thread?

cheney = count dooku

Rumsfeld=Grand Moff Tarkin

Condi Rice = Salacious Crumb

[Cerevant]

If the Patriot Act is thwarting terrorism it may be a neccessary evil in the war on terrorism

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."    Benjamin Franklin, 1759.

BTW, the goal of terrorism is not to kill people - it is to make people afraid.  American citizens are not only afraid, but we have a web site to tell us just how afraid we should be today.  The war on terrorism was lost a long time ago...

[Butchers Bill]

Trust the government.  Don't ask questions.  Don't worry about the erosion of civil liberties.  Here, just step into the showers...

You should buy two beenies Dio.  The extent of your exaggerations never cease to amaze me.   

[Diomedes]

The extent of your blind allegience to authority never ceases to amaze me.  You'd make a great Nazi, and you're doing a good job helping Bush Co. turn America into a police state.  Ridicule the dissenters all you like, it only makes you look ever more like the the jackbooted pigs you defend.

[stillupfront]

If the Patriot Act is thwarting terrorism it may be a neccessary evil in the war on terrorism

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."    Benjamin Franklin, 1759.

BTW, the goal of terrorism is not to kill people - it is to make people afraid.  American citizens are not only afraid, but we have a web site to tell us just how afraid we should be today.  The war on terrorism was lost a long time ago...

As to Franklin's character:

Benjamin Franklin.(This prediction was made in a Chit Chat Around the Table During Intermissions, at the Philadelphia Constitutional Convention of 1787. This statement was recorded in the diary of Charles Cotesworth Pinckney, a delegate from South Carolina.): I fully agree with General Washington, that we must protect this young nation from an insidious influence and impenetration. That menace, gentlemen, is the Jews. In whatever country Jews have settled in any great number, they have lowered its moral tone; depreciated its commercial integrity; have segregated themselves and have not been assimilated; have sneered at and tried to undermine the Christian religion upon which that nation is founded, by objecting to its restrictions; have built up a state within the state; and when opposed have tried to strangle that country to death financially, as in the case of Spain and Portugal. For over 1,700 years, the Jews have been bewailing their sad fate in that they have been exiled from their homeland, as they call Palestine. But, gentlemen, did the world give it to them in fee simple, they would at once find some reason for not returning. Why? Because they are vampires, and vampires do not live on vampires. They cannot live only among themselves. They must subsist on Christians and other peoples not of their race.
If you do not exclude them from these United States, in this Constitution, in less than 200 years they will have swarmed here in such great numbers that they will dominate and devour the land and change our form of government, for which we Americans have shed our blood, given our lives, our substance and jeopardized our liberty.
If you do not exclude them, in less than 200 years our descendants will be working in the fields to furnish them substance, while they will be in the counting houses rubbing their hands. I warn you, gentlemen, if you do not exclude Jews for all time, your children will curse you in your graves. Jews, gentlemen, are Asiatics, let them be born where they will or how many generations they are away from Asia, they will never be otherwise. Their ideas do not conform to an American's, and will not even though they live among us ten generations. A leopard cannot change its spots. Jews are Asiatics, are a menace to this country if permitted entrance, and should be excluded by this Constitutional Convention.

[Butchers Bill]

The extent of your blind allegience to authority never ceases to amaze me.  You'd make a great Nazi, and you're doing a good job helping Bush Co. turn America into a police state.  Ridicule the dissenters all you like, it only makes you look ever more like the the jackbooted pigs you defend.

Ahhh, the beloved Nazi reference.  The sad part is, you and your kind helped Bush get re-elected by called him a Nazi and comparing him to Hitler.  Americans generally do not like their leaders bashed, regardless of their level of competence, and this tends to lead to a "circle the wagons" mentality.

Despite 6 years of listening to the left bemoan the loss of rights and the coming of the "police state" I have yet to see one shred of evidence (waiting to see if the NY Slimes article is actually real) that this is taking place.  We have the internet (no, the government is not taking it over), satellite radio (which the government cannot control), and a free press that bashes Bush at every turn.

[Diomedes]

Ahhh, the beloved Nazi reference.

The shoe fits.

I have yet to see one shred of evidence...

You haven't looked.

[JTrotter Fan]

Add it up, folks.

Pentagon spying on law abiding, peaceful citizens--even classifying them as a "threat"--simply because they disagree with the administration.  Bush "authorizing" NSA to spy on citizens.  American citizens detained without a warrant, charges, or access to legal counsel, and held for indefinite amounts of time in secret locations.  The White House secretly paying for reporters to produce op ed pieces in support of their policies, and the Pentagon paying millions to private firms to plant postivie spin articles isn Iraqi newspapers.  The Feds can look at what book you take from libraries, and search your home without informing you until a month later. 

In the so called land of the free.  I'm astounded by how easily most people take all this in stride, assuming that the government knows what's best, and should be trusted.  Fools.

What are you gonna do about it?  You gonna storm the White House and throw up your hands and cry to Bush?  You can't do shtein about it.  Do something constructive about it or get over it.

[Rome]

Add it up, folks.

Pentagon spying on law abiding, peaceful citizens--even classifying them as a "threat"--simply because they disagree with the administration.  Bush "authorizing" NSA to spy on citizens.  American citizens detained without a warrant, charges, or access to legal counsel, and held for indefinite amounts of time in secret locations.  The White House secretly paying for reporters to produce op ed pieces in support of their policies, and the Pentagon paying millions to private firms to plant postivie spin articles isn Iraqi newspapers.  The Feds can look at what book you take from libraries, and search your home without informing you until a month later. 

In the so called land of the free.  I'm astounded by how easily most people take all this in stride, assuming that the government knows what's best, and should be trusted.  Fools.

What are you gonna do about it?  You gonna storm the White House and throw up your hands and cry to Bush?  You can't do shtein about it.  Do something constructive about it or get over it.

How are you going to do anything constructive about a regime like this one?

Hopefully come November 2008, he'll be voted out and agree to relinquish the reigns of power just like his predecessors have done for 230 years.  Something tells me that that won't happen.  No, some terrorist will spark up a doobie somewhere and then * poof * Marshal Law will be declared.

Suspend habeas corpus, I say!