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BigEd76


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Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.

BigEd76

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MDS

Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.

Wingspan

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rjs246

Follow up article to an earlier column.

QuoteOFF-SEASON PLAN PART II
           Additional positions the Eagles must address are on the offensive and defensive lines, wide receiver and tight end. Some of these positions would benefit from a front-line veteran presence, while others require youth. Throughout Andy Reid's tenure, the "plan" rarely plays out with conventional thought in mind. A good example of this would be the 2002 draft where the birds selected 2 corners (Sheppard and Brown) and strong safety Michael Lewis with their first three selections. Fans questioned why the team addressed two positions that yielded Pro Bowl corners Vincent and Taylor. Talk of the inept drafting abilities of a then 3rd year coach Andy Reid rang clear from South Philly to the Main Line. Obvious holes on the 2001-02 team (WR/TE/DE) was neglected in favor of bolstering a strong secondary. Some fans screamed for the consensus play-maker, while the Eagles targeted players to replace aging mainstays. This strategy should continue as long as Big Red calls the shots in Philly.



The position that's being discussed as the biggest need – Defensive Tackle, has fans salivating over prospects like Oregon's Haloti Ngata. Although this seemingly sure-fire prospect would improve the defensive line, how much of an impact would he have in 06? It's pretty uncommon that a rookie DT, no matter how talented, can be relied upon to immediately sure-up a line's interior. When you take into account this player will line up next to second year starter Mike Patterson, chemistry and experience are instantly compromised. The team should look towards experienced free agent DT's to compliment what they already have. Rounds 3 thru 5 should harbor depth concerns the Eagles look to address.



Just last spring, the birds selected a solid DT with pick #31 in the first round. They chose Mike Patterson in an effort to re-tool the defensive tackle position. The undersized Patterson was referred to as "Baby Sapp" after flourishing at USC in 04. Although his rookie sack total (3.5) doesn't anoint him the next great DT, he was the best Eagles DT in 2005. It will be interesting to see how much of a leap he can make in 06 after surpassing expectations as a rookie. The Eagles' current task is to find a line-mate to compliment Patterson's budding talent. Some are hoping the Eagles select his compliment with pick 14. This is not the best strategy for a team that looks to compete for the division. The Eagles can bypass the normal learning curve by signing a veteran FA. There are a few that should be available when the free-agency begins in early March. *** (Look for Hollis Thomas and Paul Grasmanis to be released by the start of training camp) ***



Solution: – La'roi Glover DT (Dallas Cowboys). Glover has been a force for most of his professional career but fell into a bad situation in Dallas. The 3-4 alignment that cost him playing time, paired with the 1.5 million dollar roster bonus he's set to receive in March, will have Glover searching for a new home. Agent Tom Condon has already expressed to a source that he doesn't expect Glover, who will count more than 7 million against the cap, to remain with Dallas in 06. The Eagles should have a chance to land the 32 year old DT who's looking to utilize his pass-rushing skills from the 4-3 alignment. Glover's attributes include excellent field awareness, great strength to collapse the pocket and a Pro Bowl-caliber presence the interior currently lacks. Being part of a rotation would suit the aging Glover. La Roi paired with Patterson could make the pocket a dangerous place for opposing quarterbacks on obvious passing downs. The Eagles could secure Glover for somewhere in the ballpark of 2.5 million per with a 4.5 million dollar signing bonus. Glover will look to sign a 2 year (minimum) guaranteed contract if the Eagles are willing to land the soon-to-be ex-Cowboy.



Another player who could figure into the mix would be the URFA defensive tackle from Seattle: Rocky Bernard. The 26 year old Bernard will demand more money than Glover, but should become a mainstay for years to come. Although the commitment to Bernard would entail a substantial long-term contract, he's young with tremendous upside. How much upside will be the question when the Eagles look to bolster an unproductive defensive line? Since being drafted in the fifth round in 2002, Bernard continues to improve. At 6-3 295lbs, the Texas A&M product has decent size and a real knack for penetrating up the middle. He notched 8.5 sacks in 2005 and recorded 42 solo tackles which reflects well on his play recognition. Are the Eagles looking for a short term solution with Glover, or to finally replace Simon with a similar player in Bernard? Seattle will make every effort to retain Bernard's services but might not have the money to keep this Rocky out of Philly.



The thought of Todd Pinkston returning from injury doesn't dismiss the need for a "go-to" receiver in an offense that averaged 40 plus pass attempts per game. Donovan McNabb had arguably the best season of any Eagles quarterback in its 72 year history while paired with Terrell Owens. Like him or not, T.O. is one of the best in the business and in turn gave McNabb the target every quarterback dreams of having. Now it's back to a group of receivers who haven't shown the ability to get open in big games. Although Reggie Brown looked promising as a rookie, it would be naïve to think he can fill the big shoes left by Owens. Do the Eagles need a true number 1 receiver to win the division and challenge for the Superbowl? No, but making the argument an established top-flight receiver wouldn't make life easier for Donovan is just misguided.



Solution: Eric Moulds, WR (Buffalo Bills). Eric Moulds (6-2 210lbs) has proven to be a true "number one" despite playing on poor-to-average teams during his tenure in Buffalo. His numbers are impressive when looking at the list of quarterbacks he's worked with. Moulds averaged nearly 85 receptions a season with the likes of Rob Johnson, Alex Van Pelt and just recently J.P. Losman leading the Bills offense. That in itself is a major accomplishment. His asking price will be kept in check by his age at 31. Most top receivers speak on the importance of learning from a savvy veteran as they developed. Moulds would be good for this group, especially Reggie Brown. Not only would he take some of the pressure off them, but his experience would benefit players like Brown and Greg Lewis. Moulds can be obtained for less money than what Reggie Wayne expects to receive on the open market. If Wayne is coerced into staying with Indy, Moulds asking price could skyrocket outside of what the Eagles are willing to spend. A likely scenario would be Indy opting to retain Wayne and letting James walk. Wayne's importance to the Colts might force the organization to become creative with their cap and keep Reggie in Payton's arsenal. 



The Eagles in addition to coveting the services of Moulds would be wise in drafting a wide receiver with punt return skills. The loss of J.R. Reed was felt last year as the kick and punt return teams struggled. A good slot WR should be available to the Eagles in the 3rd to 4th rounds where they expect to address the position. Skyler Green from LSU is a quality pass catcher/kick returner hybrid who would make perfect sense. Although undersized at 5-10 195lbs, Green is a playmaker and natural return man the Eagles so desperately miss. Ideal size won't score touchdowns at the next level but Skyler Green will.

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Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

rjs246

QuoteL.J. Smith has done a nice job becoming a viable option for McNabb in the passing game. Smith's has been good as a receiver but lacks the blocking skills to be considered a complete TE. With Chad Lewis making his last stand in 05, the Eagles will search for a compliment to Smith. There are a few draft prospects that could become the sought after blocking TE with the ability to take some receptions away from Smith. Dominique Byrd (6-3 260lbs) out of USC would give the team a dynamic option in a two tight end set. Byrd's athleticism and pass catching ability is his strength, but he is also an underrated blocker. He has the strength to move linebackers and undersized rush ends away from the play. His questionable character will be scrutinized at the combine but shouldn't push him past the 3rd round. Another interesting prospect is Erik Gill, the 6-5 275lb blocking TE out of Pittsburgh. Gill can't match Byrd's athleticism but is a better blocker. He also has the ability to catch the ball as displayed in 2004 season where he gained 433 yards while notching 4 tds. Tight ends coach Greg Gattuso called Gill a solid blocking TE with good hands. Gill was awarded the "most improved offensive player" in 2004 after backing up All-Big East TE Kris Wilson.



The final piece of the puzzle is a Pro Bowler, who will be the most sought after offensive lineman in free agency. LG Chad Hutchinson, the mauler from Seattle, has been a huge part of RB Shawn Alexander's success over the last few seasons. He will demand a lucrative contract but as the Eagles have shown in the past: they will spend the money for the players they target (i.e. John Runyan, Jevon Kearse). The Eagles are in a favorable position to land the All Pro guard according to next years cap numbers. Chad Hutchinson is the type of guy Andy Reid would be willing to pay top dollar for. The youth movement on the offensive line would benefit from the leadership Hutchinson would bring. With Tra Thomas suffering from chronic back problems and the future of RT John Runyan in question, the Eagles will look to add a valuable building block to a line in transition. There is the risk that Seattle could franchise Hutchinson but that will materialize after the Superbowl.



*****In reference to Part I of the off-season plan, FB Brian Leonard has decided to return to Rutgers for his final season while it's looking like Julius Peterson will out-price the Eagles in FA. The Eagles reportedly have shown interest in Will Witherspoon (OLB) currently playing for Carolina ......more info will be available in the coming weeks.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

BigEd76

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San Francisco won the coin toss with Oakland and will pick 6th.

BigEd76

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AdamJT13 is known around football MBs as the person that has the best estimates on what the NFL compensation picks will be, and he's been pretty close each of the last 5 years.  Here's this year's predictions:

QuoteHere are the projected picks, along with the compensatory player, their games played/started and their average contract value –

THIRD ROUND
N.Y. Jets (LaMont Jordan, $5.51 million, 14 GP/14 GS)

FOURTH ROUND
Denver (Reggie Hayward, $5.0 million, 15/15)
Pittsburgh (Kendrell Bell, $4.974 million, 16/14)
Baltimore (Gary Baxter, $5.004 million, 5/5 IR)
Pittsburgh (Plaxico Burress, $4.167 million, 16/15)
Baltimore (Edgerton Hartwell, $4.375 million, 5/5 IR)

FIFTH ROUND
Philadelphia (Derrick Burgess, $3.491 million, 16/12, Pro Bowl)
Green Bay (Marco Rivera, $3.80 million, 14/14)
Pittsburgh (Oliver Ross, $3.50 million, 12/11)
Tampa Bay (Dwight Smith, $3.04 million, 15/15)
Tennessee (Andre Dyson, $3.501 million, 10/6)
Baltimore (Casey Rabach, $2.825 million, 16/16)

SIXTH ROUND
Philadelphia (Jermane Mayberry, $3.009 million, 11/8)
New England (David Patten, $2.60 million, 9/7 IR)
New England (Joe Andruzzi, $2.194 million, 13/13)
Indianapolis (Rick DeMulling, $2.275 million, 14/5)

SEVENTH ROUND
Baltimore (Bennie Anderson, $1.706 million, 16/15)
Tampa Bay (Chartric Darby, $1.0 million, 14/14)
St. Louis (Tommy Polley, $800,000, 16/15)
St. Louis (Matt Lehr, $710,000, 15/15)
Tampa Bay (Keith Burns, $790,000, 15/1)
Detroit (Stockar McDougle, $750,000, (8/2)
Buffalo (net value; lost $9.49 million, 19/19, IR ; signed $3.409 million, 26/23)
Seattle (net value; lost $12.167 million, 47/43; signed $7.001 million, 40/35)
Washington (net value; lost $10.075 million, 24/21; signed $5.425 million, 25/23 IR)
Houston (non-compensatory)
New Orleans (non-compensatory)
Green Bay (non-compensatory)
San Francisco (non-compensatory)
Oakland (non-compensatory)
Tennessee (non-compensatory)
New York Jets (non-compensatory)

Eleven of the comp picks I've projected appear to be on the borderline between two rounds, or at least close to the borderline. So it wouldn't surprise me if the comp pick ... for Mayberry [is] in the fifth round ....
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PHILADELPHIA
Lost – Derrick Burgess, Jermane Mayberry, Ike Reese.
Signed – Mike McMahon.

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PoopyfaceMcGee

A fifth-rounder for a guy who led the league in sacks and made the Pro Bowl?  Blasphemy.