official draft pick tracker thread

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

I got news for all you dooky-cracka-fruits.  With a possible uncapped year pending in 2007, anyone top-notch who actually makes it to the market will probably be franchised, because the players will be asking for huge money to sign long-term, and the teams will want a better idea of the long-term look of the CBA before they dish it out.

Free agency is not going to land the Eagles much of anything.

[henchmanUK]

Name a team that has won a SB without high draft pick o-linemen.

Who's on the Pats?

They took an OL this year.

[SunMo]

I got news for all you dooky-cracka-fruits.  With a possible uncapped year pending in 2007, anyone top-notch who actually makes it to the market will probably be franchised, because the players will be asking for huge money to sign long-term, and the teams will want a better idea of the long-term look of the CBA before they dish it out.

Free agency is not going to land the Eagles much of anything.

i've heard that the owners will lock the players out before ever allowing an uncapped year.

[Diomedes]

i've heard that the owners will lock the players out before ever allowing an uncapped year.

Damn straight they will.  So would I. 

If only fans would lock out the Owners for the uncapped ticket prices.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Logan Mankins is the only 1st round pick on the Pats' line... #32 overall.

I'm saying that the Eagles have some young possibilities on the line, and that using a very early pick on an offensive lineman is pretty much one of the biggest wastes I could envision.

Positions I'd draft before OL in 2006 (in no particular order):
DE
DT
OLB
WR
DB (can never have enough good ones)

[SunMo]

Logan Mankins is the only 1st round pick on the Pats' line... #32 overall.

I'm saying that the Eagles have some young possibilities on the line, and that using a very early pick on an offensive lineman is pretty much one of the biggest wastes I could envision.

i would agree for any o-line position, except left tackle.  dominant left tackles are so coveted, you will never get one in FA, you need to draft one.  is Herremans a dominant LT?  i don't know, he doesn't have the pedigree of a high draft pick like Pace, Samuels, Ogden, Walter Jones, etc...  but could he develop into one?  i don't know.

[henchmanUK]

Pace and Ogden were both fairly high OLers who won rings. Think it's horses for courses.

[bobbyinlondon]

something for everyone to follow the rest of the season

for purposes of this thread and with the injuries we are going to go on the assumption that the eagles arent winning anymore games this year

that leaves them at five wins

currently there are thirteen teams with five wins or less

we will eliminate the two win or less teams as none of them are winning three or more games - jets, hou, gb, sf

thats leaves

5 wins - stl
4 wins - buff, balt, cle, oak, det, arz
3 wins - tenn, no

rams and arizona play the eagles...so they are out...that leaves the following teams that the eagles could potentially pass or tie

buff - ne, at den, at cinn, at jets (will win at least one vs jets)

balt - at den, gb, minn, at cle (they have two big battles gb and at cle...at least one win right there)

cle - at cinn, at oak, pitt, balt (they are good for minimum one win)

det - at gb, cinn, at no, at pitt (gotta win this week or the eagles probably wont catch them)

oak - at jets, cle, at den, nyg (jets=win)

tenn - hou, sea, at mia, at jack (gotta beat hou and mia to get caught)

no - at atl, car, det, at tb (almost a lock to finish ahead of the birds)

2006 philadelphia eagles first round pick:

current status - 12th pick
worst case - 14th pick
best case - 5th pick 

big games this week: buff over ne, det over gb, oak over jets, tenn over hou

Currently, it looks like this:

W L T Pct. SOS
1 Houston 1 11 0 .083 .604
2 Green Bay 2 10 0 .167 .549
3 San Francisco 2 10 0 .167 .563
4 N.Y. Jets 2 10 0 .167 .563
5 New Orleans 3 9 0 .250 .507
6 Tennessee 3 9 0 .250 .507
7 Buffalo 4 8 0 .333 .465
8 Cleveland 4 8 0 .333 .500
9 Arizona 4 8 0 .333 .514
10 Baltimore 4 8 0 .333 .528
11 Detroit 4 8 0 .333 .535
12 Oakland 4 8 0 .333 .542
13 Miami 5 7 0 .417 .479
14 St. Louis 5 7 0 .417 .500
15 Philadelphia 5 7 0 .417 .542
16 Washington 6 6 0 .500 .576
17 Atlanta 7 5 0 .583 .458
18 Minnesota 7 5 0 .583 .479
19 Pittsburgh 7 5 0 .583 .500
20 Dallas 7 5 0 .583 .507
21 New England 7 5 0 .583 .542
22 Tampa Bay 8 4 0 .667 .417
23 Kansas City 8 4 0 .667 .444
24 San Diego 8 4 0 .667 .493
25 N.Y. Giants 8 4 0 .667 .507
26 Chicago 9 3 0 .750 .431
27 Carolina 9 3 0 .750 .431
28 Cincinnati 9 3 0 .750 .479
29 Jacksonville 9 3 0 .750 .486
30 Denver 9 3 0 .750 .535
31 Seattle 10 2 0 .833 .438
32 Indianapolis 12 0 0 1.000 .382

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/draft/update

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

I don't doubt LT is an important position.  I do think that Tra will benefit greatly from shortening his season and having his surgery, and the team will probably have the book set on Herremans one way or another.

Let's just say that I believe that this team will be good enough in 2006 to make another run at a Super Bowl, but I don't see that happening with a rookie playing LT.

[SunMo]

Let's just say that I believe that this team will be good enough in 2006 to make another run at a Super Bowl, but I don't see that happening with a rookie playing LT.

fair enough.

[PhillyandBCEagles]

Thing is, who else do we pick if we're drafting that high??  As a BC student I'd love to get Kiwi but with Cole's development I don't see us spending a top-12 pick on a pure pass-rushing DE (Kiwi will be a spectacular pass rusher in the NFL but he needs to put on some weight before he'll be effective against the run).  AJ Hawk is a good possibility who could start immediately at WLB, so he's a possibility, although I'd rather address the LB position by picking up Peterson or another SLB in free agency and moving Dhani back to WLB.  Don't know enough about Mario Williams but he didn't do anything against BC (although he was working against a low 1st round/high 2nd round OT in Jeremy Trueblood, plus I was drunk off my ass for that game), from what I hear he's a better run stopper than Kiwi but not as good rushing the QB.  Our RB situation isn't bad enough to warrant taking a guy like DeAngelo Williams or Lawrence Maroney that high.  We won't have the chance to take D'Brickshaw Ferguson most likely but Jonathan Scott and Eric Winston are possibilities--they don't have to start at LT right away, but either could certainly give Hicks a run for his money at LG while being groomed to take over at LT in the future (or RT if we decide that Herremans is a franchise-caliber LT and/or Andrews is better suited staying at RG).  We won't spend another 1st-round pick on a DT, so Ngata is out, we should address depth at CB later in the draft but don't need to spend a 1st-rounder there, and none of the WRs in this draft are worth taking above 15 or so.  So if we have a pick around 10, who do we take if not an OT??  Trade down??

[phattymatty]

Trotter is the only LB who should even be on the team next year.  I say we takes LBs with all of our picks.

[PhillyandBCEagles]

Incidentally just like every year I think there are a few BC guys who would fit in very nicely on the Eagles.  Kiwi is an absolute stud who goes without saying, although as I said in my last post I'm not sure a pure pass-rushing DE is what we need at the moment, but I think we should take a hard look at Jeremy Trueblood and Will Blackmon if they're available for us in the 2nd round.  Trueblood is a massive (6'9, 330ish) LT, doesn't really excel at any one thing in particular but is good at everything.  I think he'll be an excellent NFL player, and if we decide that Herremans is not the LT of the future and if we don't go OL in the 1st round I'd like us to grab him in the second.  Blackmon is a 2-way guy, played CB exclusively his first 3 years at BC but has made the transition to #1 WR this year while still seeing some snaps at CB in nickel and dime situations.  Good height (great height for a CB), very good speed.  Also a very good KR/PR.  He has had some problems getting burned deep when playing in man coverage at CB, but this is more due to BC's coaching scheme not making the best of his natural abilities.  He also hasn't put up the kind of offensive numbers we'd like this season, but this is due in large part to the totally incompetent playcalling of our OC (none other than the one and only Dana Bible) and the inability of our former starting QB, Quinton Porter, to throw the deep ball.  Since Porter was replaced as starter by Matt Ryan (Exton native and Penn Charter grad) with 2 games remaining in the season, Blackmon has gotten 6 catches for 201 yards.  He also has 2 8-catch games this season, and is averaging 22 yards per KR and 10 yards per PR this season.  Definitely worth a look.

[PhillyandBCEagles]

Trotter is the only LB who should even be on the team next year.  I say we takes LBs with all of our picks.

I think Jones would do much better at WLB than he is at SLB, and Adams, McCoy, and Short are worth keeping around for STs and limited defensive duty, but generally you're on the right track.

[The BIGSTUD]

A great defensive lineman in the draft would very much excite me. I think the linebacker issue can be addressed through free agency along with receiver.