Hard truths to face before '06 Season

Started by PoopyfaceMcGee, December 06, 2005, 08:50:06 AM

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Zanshin

Quote from: Sun_Mo on December 07, 2005, 09:58:40 AM
Quote from: Zanshin on December 07, 2005, 09:54:52 AM
lol...Lewis was never meant to be a starter. He was going to be a third receiver, and he would have been fine at that.
he would have? i don't know about that, he's soft as a reciever and a 3rd WR, slot guy needs to be able to fight for a ball. he certainly can't do that.


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"ooooohhh....the sky is falling, the sky is falling!"

It's a bad, snakebit season. Deal with it and lighten the farg up.

yeah good point, why would people be upset about a 42-0 loss at home on monday night football? i just don't understand it.


Let's be clear....I don't care how you or anyone else reacts.  Feel free to be idiotically over-reactionary.  It was a bad loss...but people aren't talking about the loss.  They're talking about the mess of a team, as if it was the actual team playing.

And just because Lewis was going to be the third receiver doesn't mean he'd be in the slot.  Owens was the slot guy.

Eaglez

Quote from: FFatPatt on December 07, 2005, 09:49:32 AM
Quote from: Eaglez on December 07, 2005, 09:45:30 AM
Maybe Favre will decide to stay a few years in Philly to hang out with Reid and shoot the sh!t.

Saint Brett has made it clear that he will retire when his career as a starter in Green Bay is over.

Yeah, it's a pipedream but oh well.


Well, Greg Lewis had a good training camp, he performed well under pressure in the Super Bowl, and he looked pretty decent at the beginning of the year opposite of TO. I didn't think it was unreasonable to assume that Lewis could do a decent job replacing Pinkston. It's not like it would have been a hard task considering that Pinky's production over the past two seasons has been paltry at best.

Lewis has now turned into a wussy, especially evident from Monday night. But Pinky has been showing us that he's a wussy for 5 seasons.

PoopyfaceMcGee

We're looking at a team that will be starting only 4/11 of the original starting offense, and that includes Josh Parry and two offensive linemen.  The only skill position player still intact is L.J.

So, the alarmism on the offensive side of the ball might be a little extreme.  I contend that there are zero teams in the NFL that would survive such a rash of injuries and "other issues".  Imagine Indy without Manning, Harrison, Wayne, the left side of the line (namely Tarik Glenn), and later Edge.  They'd be pretty good, right?  Ha!

Zanshin

Quote from: FFatPatt on December 07, 2005, 10:08:12 AM
We're looking at a team that will be starting only 4/11 of the original starting offense, and that includes Josh Parry and two offensive linemen. The only skill position player still intact is L.J.

So, the alarmism on the offensive side of the ball might be a little extreme. I contend that there are zero teams in the NFL that would survive such a rash of injuries and "other issues". Imagine Indy without Manning, Harrison, Wayne, the left side of the line (namely Tarik Glenn), and later Edge. They'd be pretty good, right? Ha!

lol...stop trying to inject reality into their misery.  Some people aren't happy unless they have major drama to bitch about.  Let them be the squeeling girls they are.

SunMo

Quote from: Zanshin on December 07, 2005, 10:05:14 AM
Let's be clear....I don't care how you or anyone else reacts.  Feel free to be idiotically over-reactionary.  It was a bad loss...but people aren't talking about the loss.  They're talking about the mess of a team, as if it was the actual team playing.

i am not being "idotically over-reactionary".  i was merely responding to your statment, mocking others, that "the sky is falling".  well, it is actually, this season has been a disaster.  if you're ok with that, it's fine.  but don't mock other people who are upset that a team with Super Bowl aspirations is out of the playoffs at the begining of December. 

injuries are part of it, but so are bad personnel decisions and poor coaching. 

plus, what else is there to talk about?  you just wanna talk about last year again?
I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

Zanshin

This season has been a disaster for many, many reasons.  I'd rather talk about next year than last year, actually.  But let's look at this season for what it is.  To talk about the team and how they're playing at this point is, well, pretty pointless considering who's on the field at the same time. 

There's a track record of success, and this is one bad season.  Not only is it a bad season, but it's a laughably bad season.  So many things have just not gone the right way, it's ridiculous...and it deserves to be treated as such.  It's clearly an outlier.

Diomedes

Quote from: Sun_Mo on December 07, 2005, 10:16:06 AMbut don't mock other people who are upset that a team with Super Bowl aspirations is out of the playoffs at the begining of December.

After losing to Washington and then Dallas, this team was out of the playoffs in early November.

There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

PoopyfaceMcGee

Yep, I considered any possibility for a Super Bowl season over with the loss to Washington, then buried/confirmed with the loss to Dallas.

Diomedes

So why the histrionics now?  Don't people realize this season has been dead for a month?  WTF?
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

ice grillin you

I considered any possibility for a Super Bowl season over with the loss to Washington

superbowl was essentially over when they didnt imporve the team in the offseason...but it officially ended the minute donovan got his sports hernia
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Beermonkey

Quote from: Diomedes on December 07, 2005, 10:32:36 AM
So why the histrionics now?  Don't people realize this season has been dead for a month?  WTF?

Because now those people with grudges against the front office/head coach can now make an argument about how they have been right all along.

phillywin2k5

If you want to point fingers at someone it should be Andy Reid & the FO

-- The guy is too loyal to the Mormons (ie Reno Mahe, Koy Detmer).
-- Hes not open to change and not only scoffs at recommendations but flat out goes to try and prove those people wrong.
-- Some lousy breaks with injuries (Buckhalter, McDougle, Andrews, etc) and no depth built at any positions due to mediocre drafting.
-- AR needs to concentrate on coaching and hire a real GM
-- Obviously some coaches need to be fired, DAVID CULLEY in particular. How does a team go 7 years into the draft and nothing to show for WRs??
-- Is the offensive scheme that complicated??
if you take advice from people in the 700 level, you'll find yourself sitting next to them -- Buddy Ryan

Wingspan

Quote from: phillywin2k5 on December 07, 2005, 11:12:13 AM

-- The guy is too loyal to the Mormons (ie Reno Mahe, Koy Detmer).


koy isnt a mormon

Quote from: phillywin2k5 on December 07, 2005, 11:12:13 AM
-- Some lousy breaks with injuries (Buckhalter, McDougle, Andrews, etc) and no depth built at any positions due to mediocre drafting.

all the "lousy breaks" are players drafted by reid

Quote from: phillywin2k5 on December 07, 2005, 11:12:13 AM
-- Obviously some coaches need to be fired, DAVID CULLEY in particular. How does a team go 7 years into the draft and nothing to show for WRs??

that i agree with
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phillywin2k5

Quote from: Wingspan on December 07, 2005, 11:16:35 AM
Quote from: phillywin2k5 on December 07, 2005, 11:12:13 AM

-- The guy is too loyal to the Mormons (ie Reno Mahe, Koy Detmer).


koy isnt a mormon

Quote from: phillywin2k5 on December 07, 2005, 11:12:13 AM
-- Some lousy breaks with injuries (Buckhalter, McDougle, Andrews, etc) and no depth built at any positions due to mediocre drafting.

all the "lousy breaks" are players drafted by reid

Quote from: phillywin2k5 on December 07, 2005, 11:12:13 AM
-- Obviously some coaches need to be fired, DAVID CULLEY in particular. How does a team go 7 years into the draft and nothing to show for WRs??

that i agree with

so TY is a Mormon and his brother isnt? HMMM
if you take advice from people in the 700 level, you'll find yourself sitting next to them -- Buddy Ryan

SunMo

Quote from: phillywin2k5 on December 07, 2005, 11:24:33 AM
Quote from: Wingspan on December 07, 2005, 11:16:35 AM
Quote from: phillywin2k5 on December 07, 2005, 11:12:13 AM

-- The guy is too loyal to the Mormons (ie Reno Mahe, Koy Detmer).


koy isnt a mormon

Quote from: phillywin2k5 on December 07, 2005, 11:12:13 AM
-- Some lousy breaks with injuries (Buckhalter, McDougle, Andrews, etc) and no depth built at any positions due to mediocre drafting.

all the "lousy breaks" are players drafted by reid

Quote from: phillywin2k5 on December 07, 2005, 11:12:13 AM
-- Obviously some coaches need to be fired, DAVID CULLEY in particular. How does a team go 7 years into the draft and nothing to show for WRs??

that i agree with

so TY is a Mormon and his brother isnt? HMMM

who said TY is a mormon?
I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.