Grievance Hearing Thread

Started by Diomedes, November 18, 2005, 09:41:47 AM

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henchmanUK

Quote from: ice grillin you on December 01, 2005, 09:37:17 AM
temple penn is always great as you have the dorm livin parents pay for everything penn students vs the datsun 210 pushin temple commuters

GO OWLS!
"The drunkenness, the violence, the nihilism: the Eagles should really be an English football team, not an American one." - Financial Times, London

SunMo

Quote from: Jerome99RIP on December 01, 2005, 09:47:39 AM
Quote from: Sun_Mo on December 01, 2005, 09:42:04 AM
i've never been to the Palestra  :'(

You live in Philly and have never been to the Palestra?



suburbs, but yeah, never been there.  in contrast to your pop, mine was a pro guy.  i went to countless Eagles, Phillies, Sixers and Flyers games as a kid.  The only college bball games i've been to were at the A-10 tournament, maybe 6 years ago.
I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

General_Failure

You idiots sullied the grievance thread with talk of college basketball. What the hell, man!

The man. The myth. The legend.

MURP

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QuoteEagles again ask Owens to return part of bonus

By Bob Brookover

Inquirer Staff Writer

The Eagles want their signing-bonus money back, too.

A source close to the situation yesterday confirmed a report on Foxsports.com that the Eagles have informed Terrell Owens again that they want $1.725 million of his $2.3 million signing bonus back, a threat they first made when the wide receiver did not show up at a mandatory post-draft camp in April.

The Eagles had no comment.

A league spokesman said he was not aware of the situation, and Owens' agent, Drew Rosenhaus, did not return a phone call.

Owens, who was restored to the 53-man roster last week, will be deactivated for tonight's game against the Seattle Seahawks.

His four-game suspension without pay cost him $764,706 of his $3.25 million base salary for this season. He is owed $955,882 over the final five games, but it appears as if the Eagles intend to withhold those payments because he never returned the money from his signing bonus.

All of this could lead to another grievance being filed by the NFL Players Association on Owens' behalf - or by the Eagles if the wide receiver refuses to return the money.

Team sources said last month that the money was not an issue in Owens' grievance hearing. The sources said at the time that the team was more concerned with keeping the wide receiver away from the team.

The Eagles have maintained since Owens' spring holdout that they were within their rights to reclaim 75 percent of the receiver's signing bonus because they felt he had breached his contract.

In the 38-page ruling by arbitrator Richard Bloch that went against Owens last month, there was a July letter from coach Andy Reid to the wide receiver that demanded the repayment.

Wrote Reid: "Should you fail to repay that total amount by August 12, 2005, we will begin deducting the above amount in equal installments from your game checks, and any other compensation owed to you by the club, or we will initiate a non-injury grievance for repayment of money owed to the club due to your breach."

Bloch was not asked to rule on the money the Eagles feel they are owed from the signing bonus. The arbitrator ruled that the team was within its rights to suspend Owens for four games without pay because of conduct detrimental to the team. He also ruled that the team had the right to deactivate Owens for the final five games of the season as well as bar him from the Eagles' practice facility for the remainder of the

phillywin2k5

LMAO Front Office just wont let this one die.
if you take advice from people in the 700 level, you'll find yourself sitting next to them -- Buddy Ryan

bobbyinlondon

Quote from: phillywin2k5 on December 05, 2005, 10:44:30 AM
LMAO Front Office just wont let this one die.

Why should they--he violated his contract. If they really wanted to stick it to him, they could pick up the 5M option bonus next year--then he'd either have to shut up and play for them, accept any trade they make for him, or sit out the year. And how happy would he be playing in GB with a declining Brett Favre, or how many teams would pay him big money after he's been out for a year and a half?

Cerevant

Quote from: Cerevant on November 26, 2005, 01:44:54 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 26, 2005, 11:05:21 AM
I have now heard many conflicting reports as to whether or not the Eagles have already started getting that signing bonus back, but I am certain that if they haven't already, they will.  T.O. doesn't have a separate case to file a grievance about this.  Bloch's decision would cover this as well.
My read is that it would cover the signing bonus only indirectly, which is why I think they waited for this decision to go after the SB.  Without this ruling, there may be some question if TO was actually in default of his contract - but with the "2 game suspension" clause, it is an open and shut case now that a 4 game suspension has been approved.

:-D  Have to say I saw this one coming...TO can file a grievance, but it is an open and shut case after the last arbitration result.
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Wingspan

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stalker

Just keep sticking it to him. I really think Rosenhaus should pay the 1.7 for him. They should then pay the roster bonus and trade him to Detroit.
Alert, alert. Look well at the rainbow. The fish will be running very soon.

Tomahawk

Quote from: stalker on December 07, 2005, 10:56:33 AM
Just keep sticking it to him. I really think Rosenhaus should pay the 1.7 for him. They should then pay the roster bonus and trade him to Detroit.

But then the Eagles would just be eating the roster bonus, and Owens gets to play.. What they should do is pay it to the douche then inactivate him for the season.

I wish there was no cap limit so the Eagles could honor the entire length of the contract and bench him the whole time, effectively ensuring his career ends.

stalker

Quote from: Tomahawk on December 07, 2005, 11:18:35 AM
Quote from: stalker on December 07, 2005, 10:56:33 AM
Just keep sticking it to him. I really think Rosenhaus should pay the 1.7 for him. They should then pay the roster bonus and trade him to Detroit.

But then the Eagles would just be eating the roster bonus, and Owens gets to play.. What they should do is pay it to the douche then inactivate him for the season.

I wish there was no cap limit so the Eagles could honor the entire length of the contract and bench him the whole time, effectively ensuring his career ends.

That would be the ultimat goal.
Alert, alert. Look well at the rainbow. The fish will be running very soon.

BigEd76

today is _____'s 32nd birthday, and he's supposedly in Hawaii

Diomedes

Quote from: BigEd76 on December 07, 2005, 02:20:33 PM
today is _____'s 32nd birthday, and he's supposedly in Hawaii

No doubt imagining himself catching bombs.
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

General_Failure

Wow, Freddie got old in a hurry.

The man. The myth. The legend.

Tomahawk

Quote from: General_Failure on December 07, 2005, 02:57:28 PM
Wow, Freddie got old in a hurry.

They're talking about Terrell Owens, dumbass.