Another target for a PG attack

Started by BigEd76, November 17, 2005, 01:00:05 AM

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Diomedes

Quote from: Fan_Since_64 on November 17, 2005, 08:07:19 AMI've watched the Eagles for over 40 years now. Donovan McNabb is the best quarterback they've had during that period (Norm Van Brocklin and Sonny Jurgensen were before my time - and Donovan has had more quality seasons for the Eagles than Sonny had). Randall Cunningham was exciting to watch, for sure, but he wasn't as complete a QB, and certainly wasn't the leader that Donovan McNabb is. Ron Jaworski? Yep, I liked him because he wasn't as physically blessed as a McNabb or Cunningham but got the most out of what he had. Not in Donovan's league. Roman Gabriel? He was on the downside by the time he arrived in Philadelphia, and had only one quality season for a team that went 5-8-1. Norm Snead? King Hill? Pete Liske? Um, I don't think so.

Thanks for putting this discussion in some perspective.
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

Diomedes

Quote from: ice grillin you on November 17, 2005, 08:16:24 AM...for god sakes hes still brings up the draft

And every time he does, I love him a little less.  What a bitch thing to do.  As though he doesn't know what happened that day.  Little baby.
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

henchmanUK

Quote from: ice grillin you on November 17, 2005, 08:16:24 AMbut the second there is even an inkling of trouble or a tough situation mcnabb folds like an accordian.
There aren't many tougher situations than 4th-and-26 in the playoffs.
"The drunkenness, the violence, the nihilism: the Eagles should really be an English football team, not an American one." - Financial Times, London

Zanshin

I like the guy.  And it's probably not fair that he gets the criticism he gets.  Then again, he gets worship from another segment that he also doesn't deserve.  It all comes out in the wash. 

At the end of the day, he gets to play a game for a living and he cashes extremely large checks to do so.  There's only so bad I can really feel for the guy.

ice grillin you

There aren't many tougher situations than 4th-and-26 in the playoffs

that isnt tough because there are no expectations...not a person alive thought they were going to make that including the players and coaches

not throwing the ball to roy williams chest was infinitely easier than making the 4th and 26 yet he was able to pull off the 4th and 26....think about it
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

MURP

The problem is that McNabb has to do everything.  1 season he gets a great WR in TO and look what happens.   Now he has some injuries, Reid doesnt use any run game for most of the year, he is throwing to WR's who basically have no experience and the Oline is inconsistent.   I dont know if any QB in the NFL could succeed in that situation.

rjs246

The fact that Donovan has done as much as he has, with the tools available to him, makes him a fantastic QB. He has had some poor decisions/plays in big spots but with some of the situations the team has been in, I have a hard time balming him. He gets blame for the Superbowl and for this week's loss. Other than that, he's been fantastic. These fickle mushheads need to smarten up, quick.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

henchmanUK

Quote from: ice grillin you on November 17, 2005, 09:06:57 AM
There aren't many tougher situations than 4th-and-26 in the playoffs

that isnt tough because there are no expectations...not a person alive thought they were going to make that including the players and coaches

Utter, utter horsecrap. In the context of the whole game, considering what happened at home against Tampa in the playoffs the previous year, he'd have been crucified if they'd lost at home in the playoffs, not having even reached the Championship Game. Saying he wasn't under pressure in that situation is ridiculous.
"The drunkenness, the violence, the nihilism: the Eagles should really be an English football team, not an American one." - Financial Times, London

ice grillin you

Utter, utter horsecrap. In the context of the whole game, considering what happened at home against Tampa in the playoffs the previous year, he'd have been crucified if they'd lost at home in the playoffs, not having even reached the Championship Game. Saying he wasn't under pressure in that situation is ridiculous.

this is true but in his mind before that play even happened he had already lost it as there was no way they were going to make it...thus no pressure
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

SunMo

Quote from: henchmanUK on November 17, 2005, 09:13:40 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 17, 2005, 09:06:57 AM
There aren't many tougher situations than 4th-and-26 in the playoffs

that isnt tough because there are no expectations...not a person alive thought they were going to make that including the players and coaches

Utter, utter horsecrap. In the context of the whole game, considering what happened at home against Tampa in the playoffs the previous year, he'd have been crucified if they'd lost at home in the playoffs, not having even reached the Championship Game. Saying he wasn't under pressure in that situation is ridiculous.

he's not saying that, he's saying that exact play, there was no expectations, everyone in the stadium knew the game was over, we were all just waiting for the final gun.  what happens if that play is 4th and 6, instead of 26?
I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

MURP

anytime your season is on the line there is pressue.  How you can possibly pretend otherwise is hilarious.

rjs246

Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

ice grillin you

anytime your season is on the line there is pressue

but it wasnt on the line.....its was over....which is why 4th and 26 was referred to as a miracle
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

MURP

Obviously the game wasnt over.  hence the outcome. 

henchmanUK

"The drunkenness, the violence, the nihilism: the Eagles should really be an English football team, not an American one." - Financial Times, London