Sixers Season thread 2

hunt · January 12, 2006, 01:05:02 PM

hah! sun mo beat me to it. ai gambles for steals & gets a bunch of them but he's awful on D. he & webber don't even try.

and i don't even know if artest could make up for ai & c-webb's lack of D. it's hard enough to cover up 1 horrible defender...covering up 2 or 3 is damn near impossible.

ice grillin you · January 12, 2006, 01:47:38 PM

webber needs to be euthanized and turned into glue...not traded

there is nothing the team can do this year that would cause them to win even a round in the playoffs...and that includes getting artest...what they need to do is develop a back to the basket game in dalembert and run more of the offense thru iggy in a way to develop both of them...of course the massive push for the 8th seed will take up most of their energy...thus 95% of the shots will continue to go to iverson and webber

and thats the teams major problem they have an identity crisis...they should be a team transitioning towards the future and a post iverson era...instead they are trying to find way to sneak into the playoffs

Magical_Retard · January 13, 2006, 04:39:36 PM

anyone have a link to that iverson interview with steven a smith from quite frankly? i heard it was a good interview but i never watched it.

mussa · January 13, 2006, 04:47:03 PM

Quote from: ice grillin you on January 12, 2006, 01:47:38 PM
webber needs to be euthanized and turned into glue...not traded

i got a good chuckle out of that

rjs246 · January 13, 2006, 04:48:23 PM

Quote from: ice grillin you on January 12, 2006, 01:47:38 PM
webber needs to be euthanized and turned into glue...not traded

Mussa beat me to it. This little nugget is a perfect example of why I open threads on topics that I otherwise have no interest in.

mussa · January 13, 2006, 04:50:09 PM

likewise

Sgt PSN · January 13, 2006, 05:08:48 PM

Quote from: FFatPatt on January 12, 2006, 12:58:20 PM
I thought Iverson used to be able to defend. What happened?

I love AI and think he gets too much criticism at times, however I will say that he is not anywhere near the type of defensive player that he is on offense. For a few years AI was a major benefactor from Eric Snow's defense. Snow always matched up on the opposition's bigger guard and Larry Brown had defensive sets in place that allowed AI to do a little "freelancing" and play the passing lanes which is why he's always at or near the top of the league in steals. He still plays the passing lanes but he doesn't have the benefit of having Snow's defense nor does he have the same type of defenders down low to back him up.

I don't think AI is a "bad" defender, I just think that he's at an obvious disadvantage due to his height, or lack there of.

PhillyPhreak54 · January 14, 2006, 12:16:19 AM

What a crazy ass game. They stunk in the 1st half...were down by 16 at one point and then won it in triple OT.
Korver's 3 at the end of the second OT was clutch.

Webber stealing it from Blount and then the Sixers playing keep away in the waning seconds of the third OT was great.

125-124 in 3 OT's.

MDS · January 14, 2006, 12:58:47 AM

Good god Boston is bad. But hey, it was a nice win.

Sgt PSN · January 14, 2006, 02:08:46 AM

That's like the 3rd game that's gone to triple OT in the last 2 weeks or so.

ice grillin you · January 14, 2006, 09:22:49 AM

have i mentioned that this is a .500 team?

PhillyPhreak54 · January 14, 2006, 09:56:08 AM

Yeah, but it was still a fun game to watch regardless.

They need help. And I caught Gargano saying onhis show that BK needs Snider to sign off on going into the luxury tax to make some moves.

ice grillin you · January 14, 2006, 10:08:02 AM

i totally disagree about making moves...unless they are moves to free up the younger players...they are not going anywhere with this team and are at least three/four years a way from competeing in the east....and to get to that point they must develop the iguodalas and dalemberts...thats not going to happen by getting a mid level exception player or trading for ron artest

what they really need is a young stud point guard to groom along with the other younger players...someone like chris paul or tj ford would be ideal...id rather them tank the season and get one in the draft

bottom line is imo they have a decent young nucleus in:

iggy
dalembert
korver
salmons
green

now im not saying they are starters...but in the proper roles they can be the foundation for a future...which is all i want....much more so than making a run at the 6th playoff seed just to get run in the first round again

the webber trade was a disaster...they are stuck with that cripple for three more years...he is almost single handedly holding back the team in terms of having a chance to start anew...

i think its to late now but its time for iverson to be tradede...not because im a iverson hater but because he isnt going to facilitate the careers of the younger players...hes going to do what he has to do to get more wins...which he cant be blamed for...but its not what the team needs right now

its a matter of getting 41 wins with iverson or 20 wins with the kids....id prefer the latter

PhillyPhreak54 · January 14, 2006, 10:15:50 AM

Well, I'm on a different train of thought than you. Actually the total opposite. I think that they could make some noise by adding to what they have now. If they could get a great role-playing defensive stud (someone like Bruce Bowen; I know he wouldn't be available but someone who is like him) and a good 6th man I think they're good shape.

We know that the offense is no problem. They are a high scoring team. They need to refine the defense and add two guys, IMO.

The young nucleus can be still given development time while playing with AI and Webber.

I do not want AI traded. Why? Because you will never, ever get value in return for him.

MDS · January 14, 2006, 10:46:49 AM

At this point, this is the Sixers. This is the nucleus. Trading Iverson, Webber, Dalembert for younger players doesn't seem likely. King made the choice last off season to go with offense, not defense. Right now, this team could be sitting under the cap and probably with the same record if Korver and Dalembert were not resigned. But he locked himself into this contracts, and to go along with the max deals for Iverson and Webber...the team is made.

Now, he made smarter bench signings than Lee Nailon and Steven Hunter. If he didn't extend Eric Snow's deal which lead to Kevin Ollie getting overpaid. If he didn't make 150 trades involving out first round picks. If he drafted a player who could help the club now. Maybe there would be some hope to climb out of the .500 hole this team is in and will be in this year. There is some hope for next year. Mashburns (ha) contract comes off, we have a first round pick (last one for like two years i think). Maybe some hope to draft a 2 or 3 (Mardy Collins of Temple?) and a decent bench player who can actually play defense. Getting a starting 2 or 3, moving Igy to the other position, which sends Korver to the bench...not bad. Not to mention, the probability of Willie Green coming back at a reduced price due to his ACL tear (could be less effective, but I suppose he'd still be a decent bench option)....maybe there is some hope for this team to contend. Miami has been iffy this year, Shaq you never know....so hey, the highest this team can reach is the second best team in the east and the chance to get swept by Detroit in the EC Finals, not the First Round. Sounds good!