Sixers Season thread 2

[SD_Eagle5]

what they get in return in irrelevant...in fact id give him away at this point...just to move on and see what they have with the younger players

Flashback to my Barkley comment. We're the Atlanta Hawks without him. What young player do you see 'stepping up'? Iggy? He's never been a great scorer, not even in college. Korver? Next. Salmons? Next. Dalemebart? Next.

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just because they screwed up the barkley trade doesn't mean they should never, ever trade another superstar player.
if attendance continues to decline, they'd have no choice but to consider trading ai...when a cash cow is no longer a cash cow, he's expendable.

[ice grillin you]

don't you think the east is a little stronger this year than it was back then?
that was one of those seasons where everything went right & the east was horrible...those days are over, in case you haven't noticed

so the sixers will go nowhere with a 6' gunner except in years where the conference sucks and everything goes right

am i missing anything else?

odd numbered years?
oil is over $30 a barrell?
the 50 year storm at bells beach?

[Sgt PSN]

Anyone remember the Barkley trade? (Lang, Hornacek, Perry)

I was trying to forget about it and was doing a pretty good job until you brought it back up.  Dick. 

[SD_Eagle5]

just because they screwed up the barkley trade doesn't mean they should never, ever trade another superstar player.
if attendance continues to decline, they'd have no choice but to consider trading ai...when a cash cow is no longer a cash cow, he's expendable.

Who do you think we're going to get from him? You just want to get rid of him for the sake of getting rid of him? If they can trade AI and get something decent for him, I'm all for it. But letting him walk for peanuts would be completly dumb.
I use the Barkley trade because the situations are similar. Neither team is overly talented and I heard the same comments about Barkley that I am about AI. That trade set us back what? 10 years.

[hunt]

don't you think the east is a little stronger this year than it was back then?
that was one of those seasons where everything went right & the east was horrible...those days are over, in case you haven't noticed

so the sixers will go nowhere with a 6' gunner except in years where the conference sucks and everything goes right

am i missing anything else?

odd numbered years?
oil is over $30 a barrell?
the 50 year storm at bells beach?

seriously, do you see them making a run in the next 3-4 years?
they made a deep run in the playoffs ONCE with iverson...and that was 5 years ago.  they haven't been serious contenders since.

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just because they screwed up the barkley trade doesn't mean they should never, ever trade another superstar player.
if attendance continues to decline, they'd have no choice but to consider trading ai...when a cash cow is no longer a cash cow, he's expendable.

Who do you think we're going to get from him? You just want to get rid of him for the sake of getting rid of him? If they can trade AI and get something decent for him, I'm all for it. But letting him walk for peanuts would be completly dumb.
I use the Barkley trade because the situations are similar. Neither team is overly talented and I heard the same comments about Barkley that I am about AI. That trade set us back what? 10 years.

i never said trade him for garbage.  the barkley trade was one of the worst in the history of sports...you can't assume that an iverson trade would be just as bad.
i think they'd get a superstar player in return...probably a borderline all-star.  if they could get a guy like that and a 1st round pick, i'd be satisfied.  matching up salaries & iverson's unwillingness to play team ball is what would make a trade difficult.

[Rome]

I love hearing the "well they made it to the finals with him" argument from the fluffers.



The longer the Sixers delude themselves into believing Iverson is the answer for their franchise, the longer it will be before they become legitimate contenders again.

Webber is done.  Dalembert is a joke.  Korver couldn't cover me on defense and Iverson is a no-defense-playing gunner.  Yeah, great line-up they have out there every nite.



I will say that Iggy could be the real McCoy in terms of potential superstardom, though.

[ice grillin you]

seriously, do you see them making a run in the next 3-4 years?

no i dont...they are done...their team sucks and iverson is a day away from being worthless because when he loses his first step its all over...and its a super fine line btwn iversons speed and the next group of guards behind him...and when age brings him back on the other side of that line with everyone else is when he will see his height and lack of shooting accuracy become painfully exposed...its going to be a really sad day when that happens cause i love iverson and dont want to see him hanging on like a once champion race horse who has gone lame

which is why i would literally give him away right now...cause he is the kind of person that will not acknowledge his loss of speed and will try to hang on way to long...its going to be really ugly and painful to watch and id rather him be in another city doing it

[SD_Eagle5]

i never said trade him for garbage.  the barkley trade was one of the worst in the history of sports...you can't assume that an iverson trade would be just as bad.
i think they'd get a superstar player in return...probably a borderline all-star.  if they could get a guy like that and a 1st round pick, i'd be satisfied.  matching up salaries & iverson's unwillingness to play team ball is what would make a trade difficult.

If they could get a borderline All Star and a 1st round pick for him King should be considered GM of the decade. No way a team gives up that much for him. Like I said earlier, a younger version of AI (1 year before he was league MVP) would only get us Jones, Rice, and Williams. His value has gone down since then. He's almost untradeable at this point.

[Rome]

Iverson for Kevin Garnett.

Holla.

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i never said trade him for garbage.  the barkley trade was one of the worst in the history of sports...you can't assume that an iverson trade would be just as bad.
i think they'd get a superstar player in return...probably a borderline all-star.  if they could get a guy like that and a 1st round pick, i'd be satisfied.  matching up salaries & iverson's unwillingness to play team ball is what would make a trade difficult.

If they could get a borderline All Star and a 1st round pick for him King should be considered GM of the decade. No way a team gives up that much for him. Like I said earlier, a younger version of AI (1 year before he was league MVP) would only get us Jones, Rice, and Williams. His value has gone down since then. He's almost untradeable at this point.

i don't remember the jones/rice/williams thing.  was that back when rice was an all-star?
i do remember the garnett trade though.

[Rome]

The fact that the Sixers nixed that deal tells you all you need to know about their management.

Garnett for Iverson would have been the steal of the millennium.

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seriously, do you see them making a run in the next 3-4 years?

no i dont...they are done...their team sucks and iverson is a day away from being worthless because when he loses his first step its all over...and its a super fine line btwn iversons speed and the next group of guards behind him...and when age brings him back on the other side of that line with everyone else is when he will see his height and lack of shooting accuracy become painfully exposed...its going to be a really sad day when that happens cause i love iverson and dont want to see him hanging on like a once champion race horse who has gone lame

which is why i would literally give him away right now...cause he is the kind of person that will not acknowledge his loss of speed and will try to hang on way to long...its going to be really ugly and painful to watch and id rather him be in another city doing it

this post is dead on.
but i thought you were saying they could still win with ai in your earlier post...

[SD_Eagle5]

i don't remember the jones/rice/williams thing.  was that back when rice was an all-star?
i do remember the garnett trade though.

No, Rice was coming off the bench at the time. Only starter we were getting was Jones, and he was constantly battling injuries. That was the trade that would have been completed if Geiger would have waived his guaranteed contract to go to Detroit. Article on the trade that almost happened.