Sixers Season thread 2

[ice grillin you]

shav with 12 boards...holla

[NGM]

MDS, is that Dustin Salisbury?

[SunMo]

shav with 12 boards...holla

actually, he played 14:58 to Hunter's 5:50...

what a mistake Hunter was

[ice grillin you]

for real...hunter is just awful

[SunMo]

for real...hunter is just awful

i would deal Hunter and Iggy to the Pacers for Artest in a heartbeat.  start Salmons at the 2, Artest at the 3, bring Korver of the bench, and use Shav as the 1st big off the bench.

[PhillyPhreak54]

I wouldn't trade Iggy for Artest. Iggy is going to be here for awhile and he's not the risk that Artest is. Artest's low salary and his temperment is the reason why the Pacers are not going to get value for him. If King gave up Iggy and Artest acted up here and it was a short lived tenure then you have traded away a quality young player for nothing.

Getting Artest is a risk and while I want him here I do not want to give up Iggy. If you hve Iggy and Artest then you have two good on-the-ball defenders. And since you want to build your defense doing that wouldn't make sense to me (to trade Iggy).

Speaking of minutes played and mistakes....what happened to Lee Nailon? Has he played more than 3 minutes in the last 10 games? He's disappeared.

Hunter was brutal.

Webber had another good game. His pass to Iggy knifing through the lane was a thing of beauty and Iggy's dunk was nice.

AI dropped 39.

Got the Heat coming to town on Friday. A must win.

[SunMo]

I wouldn't trade Iggy for Artest. Iggy is going to be here for awhile and he's not the risk that Artest is. Artest's low salary and his temperment is the reason why the Pacers are not going to get value for him. If King gave up Iggy and Artest acted up here and it was a short lived tenure then you have traded away a quality young player for nothing.

Getting Artest is a risk and while I want him here I do not want to give up Iggy. If you hve Iggy and Artest then you have two good on-the-ball defenders. And since you want to build your defense doing that wouldn't make sense to me (to trade Iggy).

i agree that trading Iggy for Artest would be a risk.  i threw him in there because i believe that's what it would take to get him.  look at this team, they are built to try to win now, King said as much when he acquired Webber.  Artest is still young, and is better than Iggy defensively and offensively.  so, you are giving up a young talent, but you are getting back a better player, who is still young, that would be a good fit (on the court) for what they want to do. 

and i think having a starting lineup of AI, Salmons, Artest, Webber, and Dalembert is much better defensively than AI, Iggy, Korver, Webber, and Dalembert.  like you said, it's a risk, but if this team is ever going to contend for a title again with AI, they need to take some risks because he ain't getting any younger.

[MDS]

MDS, is that Dustin Salisbury?

yes sir. t for temple u....

[rjs246]

MDS, is that Dustin Salisbury?

yes sir. t for temple u....

MDS what did I tell you about being in college?

Got get your dick wet in some girl's anus or get so drunk that you can't remember if you got your dick wet in some girl's anus. But for the love of christ stop posting here when you should be college studenting.

[MDS]

well right now its finals week and everyone is slowly leaving. my last final is not till friday morning, so i cannot. so I shall continue to toil through this... waking life.

[rjs246]

Find some equally pathetic soul and bone her colon. For real.

[MDS]

do you want pictures?

[rjs246]

do you want pictures?

Sure. I've totally never seen "Acne porn" before.

[MDS]

Bada bing, bada boom.

[PhillyPhreak54]

Stephen A. Smith | Artest would be trouble for 76ers

By Stephen A. Smith Inquirer Columnist

The 76ers should not think about bringing Ron Artest to this town.

They know this. Artest knows this. And if Philadelphia didn't know this, all it needs to do is connect the dots:

Artest is trouble whenever he's unhappy. It has always been that way, and it always will be that way. His latest diatribe against the Indiana Pacers' organization illustrated as much, the moment he went public with his desire to be traded. And there wouldn't be much for Artest to be happy about with this presently constructed band of Sixers, anyway.

No matter what logic is conjured up to the contrary.

Any hopes for the arrival of the Pacers' enigmatic forward, who is on his way out of Indiana, by the way, are perfectly understandable. At the moment, Artest is averaging 19.4 points per game. He's a former defensive player of the year who is still recognized as one of the best, most complete players in the game.

His team usually wins when he plays, and usually loses when he doesn't. And once you add his all-around toughness to the equation - teammates, let alone those playing against Artest, actually fear him - he would seem to be exactly what the Sixers need.
In a typical world, this would be the quintessential definition of a perfect match. Especially with the defensively challenged Kyle Korver as your small forward and little else in the way of help at that spot. Watching the Sixers play defense, you almost feel sorry for coach Mo Cheeks, knowing how much he's starving for energy and defense at that position.

"I would seem to be a great fit," Artest said the other day. "Me and Allen Iverson. Wow! But it's not that simple."

With Artest, what is?

The flip side to this latest mess created by Artest is that he believes he deserves to be Indiana's number-one offensive option ahead of Jermaine O'Neal. That would be one reason to question his sanity.

Artest is on the record as saying he doesn't like playing for coach Rick Carlisle, who doesn't give him enough touches. That is another reason to question his sanity, considering that Artest touches the ball more than anyone has on the Pacers this season.
So, essentially, Artest believes he's more than he actually is. He believes Carlisle is less of a coach than he actually is. So convinced is Artest that he personally gave me a wish list of Cleveland, New York, Miami and Dallas as teams he would like to play for.

Did anyone notice he never mentioned Philly?

"I don't want him," Sixers president Billy King said yesterday. "I'm not interested in getting into why. You make calls. You inquire because you just never know what a team is willing to accept for him. But you just know."

Sadly, you don't need to know that much.

Without considering the bashed cameras, his desire last season to quit playing ball so he could be a rap producer, or his roughhouse tactics during play, there is the issue of last season's brawl at the Palace of Auburn Hills, which will leave Artest infamous for the rest of his days.

After Artest was suspended for 73 games, the Pacers eventually allowed him to practice with the team. Players repeatedly embraced his return. Carlisle stood by him publicly and privately, and Larry Bird, the Pacers' president of basketball operations, even joined Artest in a photo shoot for Sports Illustrated.

"Time and time again we've stood by him, never wavering," Carlisle said. "We didn't just believe in his abilities, we believed in him. Maybe we should've seen some of this coming, but we didn't. What can you say?"

Nothing. In Artest's defense, that is.

You can't defend Artest's turning on his team this way, disrupting yet another season, jeopardizing any hope of Indiana's turning the corner and advancing to the NBA Finals. Had he kept his mouth shut and just played, matters would have been handled differently.
But keeping quiet is simply not Artest's way. "Bizarre" is a gentle way of describing how troubled he truly is. And now that he's let the proverbial cat out of the bag with his trade demand, displaying the type of behavior that provokes more and more questions about his stability, no one's looking to deal fairly with Indiana.

Miami, Cleveland, Philadelphia, Seattle, Denver, New Jersey, New York, Orlando, Minnesota, Golden State, Dallas and a few others have inquired about Artest's services. And, knowing there's a sucker born every minute, all of them are looking to make a steal.
The Sixers are no different. Today they need to be when it comes to a player who didn't seem particularly enamored with the thought of playing here.

Unless, of course, they want basketball's more troubling version of Terrell Owens.

Take a risk. At your own peril.