Sheldon Brown telling it like it is

Started by PhillyGirl, November 09, 2005, 05:13:45 PM

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Quote from: SheEagle on November 10, 2005, 07:46:17 AM
Quote from: henchmanUK on November 10, 2005, 07:38:13 AM
QuoteEagles cornerback Sheldon Brown has said that he plans to personally ensure that no draft-eligible player from his alma mater of South Carolina ever choose Rosenhaus as his agent
Rosenhaus is used to representing cocks, though.

Didn't he work the deal for Kearse?

Yeah... he also represents Hugh and Tra.
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ice grillin you

rosenhaus looked like a fool on tuesday but he is a great agent...the worst of himself got dragged out via TO...a player would be foolish to not consider drew...its more like no agent should ever hire TO again
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PhillyGirl

Quote from: ice grillin you on November 10, 2005, 08:05:04 AM
rosenhaus looked like a fool on tuesday but he is a great agent...the worst of himself got dragged out via TO...a player would be foolish to not consider drew...its more like no agent should ever hire TO again

You are an idiot with a statement like this.
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MadMarchHare

Drew screwed the pooch with TO.  However, for most of his clientele, he's been quite successful at either getting them money or getting them out to somewhere who will pay.  It's not an accident he has 90+ clients.
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PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 10, 2005, 08:16:06 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 10, 2005, 08:05:04 AM
rosenhaus looked like a fool on tuesday but he is a great agent...the worst of himself got dragged out via TO...a player would be foolish to not consider drew...its more like no agent should ever hire TO again

You are an idiot with a statement like this.

Why so?  Rosenpenis is obviously a prick, but he's still a very good agent.

Rome

I love the fact that Sheldon Brown stepped up yesterday.

Telling it like it is and establishing himself as a vocal presence in the locker room is what a leader does.  He's spot-on about both Owens and Rosenhaus too.

As for Rosenhaus being a great agent, I don't know if I'm going to agree with that.  Is he great at self-promotion?  Yes.  Is he great at getting his clients solid contracts?  So far, he has been.  But what makes a truly great agent is the ability to be able to work both sides of the negotiating table and make it appear as if he's not a threat to management while still being able to appear to be fighting like hell for his client.

Sure, he looks like he's willing to go through the fires of hell for T.O. but his ridiculous outbursts against Eagles management were terribly damaging to his credibility with management in the NFL side of the equation.  Teams aren't going to forget his antics of the other day.  Not by a long shot.

Whatever, though.  The guy represents 90 players.  He gets them their money.  The thing is, there are a ton of other agents who can accomplish the same thing without all the hoopla and bad publicity and something tells me that sooner or later, the players will begin to see through the hype and realize that pissing their prospective or current employers off isn't the brightest thing in the world.

Wingspan

Quote from: Jerome99RIP on November 10, 2005, 09:16:53 AMAs for Rosenhaus being a great agent, I don't know if I'm going to agree with that.  Is he great at self-promotion?  Yes.  Is he great at getting his clients solid contracts?  So far, he has been.  But what makes a truly great agent is the ability to be able to work both sides of the negotiating table and make it appear as if he's not a threat to management while still being able to appear to be fighting like hell for his client.

he does that though. just look at the client list. he goes through crap with the eagles with Hugh Douglas and makes some shady statements to other teams and get douglas caught in the middle of it...then a mere season later, gets a big ass contract for kearse with the eagles. hell even sooner than that gets a nice deal for mcdougle too.

despite the fact that he is a turd of a person. he is a great agent. could that change? sure. but he is a great agent, his deals, and client list speak for that.
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Rome

IMO, his client list bespeaks the stupidity of the players more than his ability as a representative.

Personally, I wouldn't hire a sleazebag like him as a sports agent any more than I would hire a crooked accountant to do my taxes or an shyster lawyer to represent me in a civil suit.

:-\

phattymatty

Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 10, 2005, 08:16:06 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 10, 2005, 08:05:04 AM
rosenhaus looked like a fool on tuesday but he is a great agent...the worst of himself got dragged out via TO...a player would be foolish to not consider drew...its more like no agent should ever hire TO again
You are an idiot with a statement like this.

Say what you want about how much of an ass he is and I'll agree with you, but you're the idiot if you think he's not a good agent.

RezRob

Quote from: phattymatty on November 10, 2005, 10:32:32 AM
Say what you want about how much of an ass he is and I'll agree with you, but you're the idiot if you think he's not a good agent.

With logic like that I guess you would consider Steinbrenner the best owner in sports. Maybe you could have the all icehole team roster.
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phattymatty

Quote from: JailBird-man on November 10, 2005, 10:56:45 AM
Quote from: phattymatty on November 10, 2005, 10:32:32 AM
Say what you want about how much of an ass he is and I'll agree with you, but you're the idiot if you think he's not a good agent.
With logic like that I guess you would consider Steinbrenner the best owner in sports. Maybe you could have the all icehole team roster.

You're right, it must just be a coincidence that he has so many clients.  About 90 or so NFL players all at once just decided they would go after a horrible agent.  Your logic does seem much better, thanks.

phattymatty

Quote from: JailBird-man on November 10, 2005, 10:56:45 AM
With logic like that I guess you would consider Steinbrenner the best owner in sports. Maybe you could have the all icehole team roster.
Oh, and also, yes.  How many rings has he won? 

I'd rather have a team of a-holes and a SB ring than a bunch of loser nice guys.

mussa

well no shtein the teamates would want him back...he a friggin playmaker and takes the weight off westy and the rest of the offense.  boo hoo now they need to step it up. 
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RezRob

Quote from: phattymatty on November 10, 2005, 11:01:01 AM
Oh, and also, yes. How many rings has he won?

I'd rather have a team of a-holes and a SB ring than a bunch of loser nice guys.
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That is actually AR's motto I think...  ::)
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ice grillin you

i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous