A thread to talk about poker

[rjs246]

I've never heard so many professionals bitch so much about other players. That used to be reserved for Hellmuth and Hellmuth alone. Now everyone is complaining about the donkey plays in this tourney. It's not surprising. As Matt pointed out, there are SO MANY amateurs in this thing that the odds are completely stacked in their favor. On top of that there's this mentality that super-aggressive play is the way to win so players will play any hand at any time. This event has become more like a circus than a poker tournament.

[Father Demon]

So I was playing a tourney last night online with a $20 buy-in.  It was about midnight when I started, which was probably a mistake in hindsight. 

Anyway, 45 people at the buy-in, pays top 7.  All night I was floating between #2 and #10, but never out of the top 10.  When it gets down to the final 8, I am in 6th place, and the 8th place dude only has 400 chips left, with a $25 ante, and blinds are 150/300.  2 more hands, this guy is done and we're all in the money.

I'm on the button, and get dealt AK of spades, a sweet hand.  Everyone before me folds, so when it's my turn to act it's just me and the blinds.  I am in 6th place in chips at this point, and I was going to just call to milk myself into the money.  But, with just the blinds left in the hand, I decide to go all-in and steal the blinds/ante.  I figure even IF one of the blinds hits any pair besides Aces or Kings, I'm close enough to even money to win to take the gamble.

Small blind folds, and big blind calls with about 1/4th of his chips.  Not what I wanted to see.  But, when he flips an 8 10 off suit, I think I'm OK.

The flop comes 7 9 J rainbow, with one spade.  CRAP.  I'm destroyed.  Nothing on the turn or the river, and I end up in 8th place.

I probably should have milked the hands to ensure I get in the money, but the hand was too sweet.  I don't question my play too much, but how in the hell do you bet 1/4 of your chip stack, potentially giving up your position in chips (he was #2 in stack, but if he lost he would have been ~ 5th place) on an 8 10 off suit?

Bummer for me.

[phattymatty]

there are SO MANY amateurs in this thing that the odds are completely stacked in their favor

700 of the 3700 or so people left are from Pokerstars.  I would bet each of the other big poker sites have about the same amount.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Joseph Hachem (2005 main event champ) is in 27th place.  Negreanu is in 29th.

[Phanatic]

I probably should have milked the hands to ensure I get in the money, but the hand was too sweet.  I don't question my play too much, but how in the hell do you bet 1/4 of your chip stack, potentially giving up your position in chips (he was #2 in stack, but if he lost he would have been ~ 5th place) on an 8 10 off suit?

Bummer for me.

The only reason he would do that is because he thought you were full of shtein....  He probably shtein himself for a second when he saw AK of spades and thanked his lucky stars after that. Either that or he's an expert card counter and knew exactly what was coming. 

[rjs246]

Live cards are (roughly) 35/65 to AK. He had a chance to knock someone out without risking a ton of chips. He wasn't a favorite, but I've seen worse decisions.

[Father Demon]

I thought too, but to risk 1/4 of your stack when you are in 2nd place, risking ending up around 5th or whatever??    I'm usually fairly reckless, but I can't imagine making that call with that shtein.

Just me, though.  I'm over it now.

[phattymatty]

Down to 1,159 players.  negraneu is in 3rd.  it would be pretty cool if after all of this "a pro will never win it again" talk, negraneu ends up taking it.

and the only celebrity to make it through is some guy from godsmack.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Down to 1,159 players.  negraneu is in 3rd.  it would be pretty cool if after all of this "a pro will never win it again" talk, negraneu ends up taking it.

and the only "celebrity" to make it through is some guy from godsmack.

Fixed, and yes, it would be cool if Negreanu won it.

[ice grillin you]

guess negreanu wasnt lying in his blog

[rjs246]

Is the 21 year old still alive?

[ice grillin you]

is the 21 year old the kid who went to maryland

[rjs246]

No.

[phattymatty]

no, he's from cali, and he busted out in one of the day 2s

[phattymatty]

guess negreanu wasnt lying in his blog

what did he say?  and where's his blog?

speaking of blogs, there's a really good poker one here