THANK GOD WE LOST - Post-game thread

ice grillin you · October 30, 2005, 10:52:36 PM

McNabb's injury isn't the problem. Did you see him move today. Forget the incompletions, he moved like the 100% McNabb. He looked fluid, quick, and strong

this is a good point and while im not gonna say the injury has no effect he did move surprisingly well on some roll outs and scrambles...i said to my brother during the game that right now what you have is the three game stretch that mcnabb has every year where he literally cant throw the ball...the difference being that this year you have the hernia mixed in with the poor play which wont allow him to snap out of it as he has done in past years...i dont see a light at the end of the tunnel right now and its really disheartining

phillywin2k5 · October 30, 2005, 10:55:47 PM

Andy's ego has become too big for this team. This team is thin in too many areas due to a too complicated offensive scheme and poor drafting on the offensive side, and a few bad breaks.

McNabbs problem is not the roll out its extending his torso to make those accurate throws.

WEST is GOD · October 30, 2005, 10:56:46 PM

Quote from: ice grillin you on October 30, 2005, 10:52:36 PM
McNabb's injury isn't the problem. Did you see him move today. Forget the incompletions, he moved like the 100% McNabb. He looked fluid, quick, and strong

this is a good point and while im not gonna say the injury has no effect he did move surprisingly well on some roll outs and scrambles...i said to my brother during the game that right now what you have is the three game stretch that mcnabb has every year where he literally cant throw the ball...the difference being that this year you have the hernia mixed in with the poor play which wont allow him to snap out of it as he has done in past years...i dont see a light at the end of the tunnel right now and its really disheartining

I agree. This is what I think is wrong with McNabb. I think he is playing bad because of something mental, not physical(the sports hernia). But where the sports hernia is hurting him, is he's confused mentally as in what his body is and isn't capable of. I think he might be thinking about the injury way too much and be letting it affect his game. Despite all that though, like I said before. No one would've been effective behind this offensive line today with them having 3 guys in McNabb's face on every down. So combine, the poor pass potection, the inability to run the ball, and McNabb being confused mentally you have a QB playing poorly. If you look at him in the Raiders game and today, it's night and day. The injury was NOT the problem today.

That's just my take.

Larry · October 30, 2005, 11:50:49 PM

McNabb is the weak point of this offense right now.

When you have game-breaking weapons like Owens, Westbrook, and LJ and the defense still has the temerity to blitz both safeties continuously, that tells me the opposing d-coordinator has no respect for McNabb's ability to pass the football....None.

The problem is, the only way to stop defenses from bringing the house is to burn them with the big play (once Owens has his 91-yard catch and run, Denver stopped selling out). Running won't work (you'll just run into the teeth of the blitz and get stuffed, especially when you lack a FB), and you can't sit there in the pocket and go thru your progressions one-by-one. This is the kind of defense that is played vs. sucky, scrubby rookie QBs: put 8-in-the-box and sell out until the QB demonstrates he can beat blitzing.

WEST is GOD · October 30, 2005, 11:52:20 PM

I disagree. It tells me that they have a lot of respect for McNabb. If they give McNabb time to throw the ball they think he'll pick them apart.

Larry · October 30, 2005, 11:57:24 PM

You give any QB time to throw, he'll pick you apart.

Blitzing is a very risky tactic. There's an old axiom, "Play defense on the good passers and blitz the poor ones."

If we had a QB who could consistently beat the blitz, Owens would've had 300 yards receiving.

WEST is GOD · October 31, 2005, 12:59:01 AM

The key to beating the blitz is having players back to pick up the blitz. The Broncos went in untouched a lot of the time, McNabb had nowhere to go, and nothing to do but get rid of it.

Larry · October 31, 2005, 12:14:14 AM

You leave in 7, they bring in 8. You leave in 8, they bring in 9. If a defense wants to get to the QB via a blitz, they can regardless of how seemingly impenetrable is your max protection.

What prevents teams from blitzing QBs like Manning, Brady, etc., is not the fact that their respective teams leave a buncha guys in to block, rather those QBs can read defenses, make the correct decisions in that short span, and get rid of the football rapidly. If you blitz them, they will burn you bad.

General_Failure · October 31, 2005, 12:32:55 AM

It might help that those QBs actually get a chance to read the defense and decide what to do without worrying about the play clock. Maybe.

BigEd76 · October 31, 2005, 12:40:53 AM

Looking at the playoff picture as of now:

1 - Giants (2 losses, 1 in NFC)
2 - Seahawks (2 losses, 1 in NFC)
3 - Falcons (2 losses, 1 in NFC)
4 - Bears (3 losses, 1 in NFC)
5 - Panthers (2 losses, 1 in NFC)
6 - Buccaneers (2 losses, 1 in NFC)
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7 - Cowboys (3 losses, 2 in NFC)
8 - taterskins (3 losses, 1 in NFC)
9 - Eagles (3 losses, 2 in NFC)
10 - Rams (4 losses, 3 in NFC)

Still early. Nobody running away with things like the AFC...

Feva · October 31, 2005, 12:42:56 AM

Quote from: General_Failure on October 31, 2005, 12:32:55 AM
It might help that those QBs actually get a chance to read the defense and decide what to do without worrying about the play clock. Maybe.

What? You saying that second and a half between getting to the line and the clock hitting zero ain't enough time for McNAbb to get his shtein straight?

General_Failure · October 31, 2005, 12:44:31 AM

He's a slow reader. It's sad.

WEST is GOD · October 31, 2005, 02:02:46 AM

At least Cortez had a good game. My sponsorship is really helping him along I think.

General_Failure · October 31, 2005, 02:05:52 AM

Yeah, he didn't farg up any of the extra points like I thought he would. He gets to live another week.

WEST is GOD · October 31, 2005, 02:10:00 AM

Also on a serious note, does anyone here besides goeagles99 look at game tape? I want to know what the difference was with our game against the Broncos, and the Giants and taterskins game vs the Broncos. What did they do differently to us than they did to them? Why were they able to own us so bad and not them? What did we do differently to the Broncos compared to what the Giants and taterskins did? How were the taterskins able to keep it close and how were the Giants able to pull out a win and why were we blown out so bad?