Could McNabb be 100% in 2 weeks?

Started by Cerevant, October 19, 2005, 06:05:38 AM

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Cerevant

From today's DN:
Quote"Look, I have no interest in this," Leitch says. "I don't know Donovan. What he does doesn't affect me, but as an athlete, I have to say if you need surgery and you don't have this done, you're cheating yourself. Fly over there and be done with it."

Over there would be Munich, home to the Hernia Center and its director, Dr. Ulrike Muschaweck, a woman who has revolutionized sports hernia repair. Using a procedure she developed called Minimal Repair Technique, athletes are returning to competition in 10 days to 2 weeks.

That's full competition with no limits, no restrictions and best of all, no re-tears. Her recurrence rate is an astonishing .002 percent.

So, does Burkholder read the DN?

C
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Susquehanna Birder

I have to think that he knows about this without having to read it in the newspaper.

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I would hope he knows about this without having to read it in the newspaper, especially the Daily News
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Cerevant

Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on October 19, 2005, 07:23:21 AM
I have to think that he knows about this without having to read it in the newspaper.
One would like to think so, but outside of soccer, it appears that this is new to US professional athletes.  I'd be curious to hear the other side of the story - if they know about it, why aren't they going with it?  It sounds like a no-brainer...
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Wingspan

maybe the other side is death.

in 10 days you are good as new, or dead. thats one hell of a risk
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rjs246

Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

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i have to think thats some kind of tuskegee experiment going on over there

dont do it black
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Cerevant

Quote from: sallad selgae on October 19, 2005, 08:27:04 AM
Is it safe?
Another quote from the article:
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Muschaweck, a hernia specialist of 12 years who tailors her surgeries based on a patient's age, occupation and needs, doesn't use mesh with athletes, preferring instead to keep the elasticity between the muscle layers after surgery. Instead Muschaweck only opens the defected area, leaving the surrounding muscle tissue intact.

Muschaweck also pays close attention to the genitofemoral nerve, which often is a source of hernia pain and, and if necessary removes part of it.

Afterward each layer of muscle is sutured separately, allowing for a less painful and speedier recovery.

"We don't operate on the intact structures; only the defect," Muschaweck explains. "That's the secret, minimizing the operating technique. It's only a small area that's causing the pain, so there's no need to open something more."

If it sounds simple, it sort of is. The reason no one in the United States is going this route is that, unlike Europe, doctors here are only starting to recognize and diagnose sports hernias with regularity. Muschaweck, on the other hand, has more than 12,000 hernia repairs on her resume.
That's 24 relapses out of 12,000 (assuming they mean .002 = 0.2%, not 0.002% which would be less than one).  farg, even if he does re-tear it, would it be worse than what he's feeling now?  It isn't like the surgery would be ripping his guts out:
QuoteMuschaweck, a hernia specialist of 12 years who tailors her surgeries based on a patient's age, occupation and needs, doesn't use mesh with athletes, preferring instead to keep the elasticity between the muscle layers after surgery. Instead Muschaweck only opens the defected area, leaving the surrounding muscle tissue intact.

Muschaweck also pays close attention to the genitofemoral nerve, which often is a source of hernia pain and, and if necessary removes part of it.

Afterward each layer of muscle is sutured separately, allowing for a less painful and speedier recovery.

"We don't operate on the intact structures; only the defect," Muschaweck explains. "That's the secret, minimizing the operating technique. It's only a small area that's causing the pain, so there's no need to open something more."
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MadMarchHare

The US regulatory agencies and the AMA tend to take a long time to adopt new techniques developed abroad.  Hell, they were doing Laser Eye Surgery in Europe for 10 years before it was approved in this country.

I wonder if this is comparable to what they did for Schilling in the WS.  Hopefully it's a little more permanent than that...
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bobbyinlondon

The thing is, this has been done on "soccer players", who in the article are said to be "Europe's NFL." Repeat after me---Soccer IS NOT THE SAME AS THE NFL. Soccer is a 90 minute game running up and down the field. Yeah, you twist your body certain ways, but you don't get hit full on and take a punding for those 90 minutes. That's one reson I for one wouldn't think this surgery would work on NFL players, especially on a QB.

Wingspan

Quote from: bobbyinlondon on October 19, 2005, 09:56:01 AM
The thing is, this has been done on "soccer players", who in the article are said to be "Europe's NFL." Repeat after me---Soccer IS NOT THE SAME AS THE NFL. Soccer is a 90 minute game running up and down the field. Yeah, you twist your body certain ways, but you don't get hit full on and take a punding for those 90 minutes. That's one reson I for one wouldn't think this surgery would work on NFL players, especially on a QB.

thing is though, the act of being hit, does not effect a hernia at all. it's painful, but the hitting does not do anything to it.

soccer players would actually tend to do more damage playing with a hernia because it's so non-stop. hernia's are range of motion type injuries, not impact injuries.
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Quote from: Wingspan on October 19, 2005, 10:17:38 AM
Quote from: bobbyinlondon on October 19, 2005, 09:56:01 AM
The thing is, this has been done on "soccer players", who in the article are said to be "Europe's NFL." Repeat after me---Soccer IS NOT THE SAME AS THE NFL. Soccer is a 90 minute game running up and down the field. Yeah, you twist your body certain ways, but you don't get hit full on and take a punding for those 90 minutes. That's one reson I for one wouldn't think this surgery would work on NFL players, especially on a QB.

thing is though, the act of being hit, does not effect a hernia at all. it's painful, but the hitting does not do anything to it.

soccer players would actually tend to do more damage playing with a hernia because it's so non-stop. hernia's are range of motion type injuries, not impact injuries.

beat me to it. McNabb himself talked about that. What was hurting him when he got HIT, was the chest contusion. The hernia bothers him when he twists or moves quickly.
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