TOOOOOOO!

[General_Failure]

He needs to throw to Parry more.

[shorebird]

He needs to throw to Parry more.

Actually, he needs to hand off more and have this offense get some farging rushing yards if it's at all possible.

But when he does pass, he needs to look for TO first, because TO is the #1 playmaker on this offense, not Bwest, not Dmac, not anyone else but TO. No matter what anyone thinks of TO and his ridiculous antics, his bashing the qb, the front office, the coach, this team wins  with TO, not without him.

[rjs246]

I'm not trashing TO's ability. I'm saying that sending the call his way on 50% of our passing plays is not even remotely justified. Reid has always prided himself on spreading the ball around, but now that TO is on the team they spread the ball around less than they ever have and when they pass to Owens McNabb's numbers actually get worse. This isn't rocket science.

[shorebird]

when they pass to Owens McNabb's numbers actually get worse. .

?? In what category? Touchdowns? Overall yards? Yards after catch? Completion percentage? Your grasping at straws in your TO bashing.

[rjs246]

Look icehole...i farging told you i would've said your name.  Get it through your farged up head that not everyone cares about you and what you think. 

I'm tired of all haters of TO...so if you want to include yourself to make yourself feel better...so be it.  meatcicle.

Clearly you do care about what I've said or you wouldn't have gotten your farging panties in a bunch about it. You make a snide comment referring to things that some of us have said, myself included. So whether you were speaking directly to me or not, what you were saying was directed at me. You farging idiots want to sit here and nitpick over the minutea of every farging thing that everyone says. I'll make it very simple for you mongoloids:
I don't like TO being an Eagle.
You said anyone that doesn't like it should be a Patriots fan (brilliant, by the way).
I am part of the 'anyone' who doesn't like it.
You were talking to me, and others, but certainly I was included.

So stuff it up your ass.

[rjs246]

?? In what catagorey? Touchdowns? Overall yards? Yards after catch? Completiong percentage? Your grasping at straws in your TO bashing.

McNabb completes a little over 50% of his passes to TO while he is well over 60% to other receivers. Am I saying that he should stop throwing to TO? No. Of course not. I'm saying that having TO on this team means that McNabb throws more passes to one guy than he ever has and when he does he completes less of them. Since we never ever run the ball and the pass is used as part of the running game that is a whole hell of a lot more plays where we gain no yards and lose a down. TO has negatively impacted our play-calling, which wasn't that stellar to begin with. If McNabb was completing 60% of his passes to TO then it would ALMOST justify passing to him on almost 40% of the total offensive play calls, but he doesn't. So there is no justification.

Look. The dude is talented. But his ability has skewed the play-calling and the way that McNabb runs this offense. Add that to his personality bullshtein and it all adds up to me not wanting him around. Justify his presence all you want, it isn't that difficult to do. You'll never convince me that he's good for this team.

[Rome]

The dissention among Eagles fans in this thread has amused me. 

I am pleased.

[Wingspan]

The dissention among Eagles fans in this thread has amused me. 

I am pleased.

Jerome99RIP =

[shorebird]

?? In what category? Touchdowns? Overall yards? Yards after catch? Completion percentage? Your grasping at straws in your TO bashing.

McNabb completes a little over 50% of his passes to TO while he is well over 60% to other receivers.

TO has 556 total yards.
37 recepts.
15.0 yd. avg.
4 td's
68 long

Bwest 292 total yds.
25 recepts.
11.7 avg.
3 td's
62 long

L.J. 287 yds.
28 recepts.
10.3 avg.
2 td's
23 long

G. Lewis 239 yds.
21 recepts.
11.4 avg.
1 td.
34 long

To has almost twice as many yards as anyone on the team, with a total of 12 more receptions than the next highest player on the team. He has a 15 yard avg. which is 5 yards more than the next receiver on the team. His 4 td's are the most on the team. And you question McNabb going to him more than any other player because of his completion percentage? Thats ridiculous. You say TO has negatively impacted our playcalling?? Like it wasn't under question before TO got here. I can't see your logic, your thinking is blinded by your hate for TO.

I'd like to know were you got your info of McNabbs comp. percentage being less to TO than other players, I looked and can't find it. I'm not saying that it's not true, I just want to look at it and compare it to the other receivers on the team on a individual basis instead of lumped together, as you have seemed to do. My thinking being that I could understand it if his competion percentage is higher if it's to Bwest, who's catching most of his passes out of the backfield and short. It's only ten percent anyway if you go by what your saying.

[shorebird]

McNabb 1495 yds.
194 att.
128 comp.
61.5 % comp. rate
11 td's
3 int.
95.9 rating

I think it bears pointing out that McNabb's numbers are still some of the best in the league even with all the bull about TO making his numbers drop.

[JTrotter Fan]

TO would beat you down.

[Geowhizzer]

Shore,

My take it this:  McNabb has become somewhat locked on TO as the primary receiver.  No doubt that he is by far the best receiver in the game, but one of the strengths of the Eagles' offense was it's penchant to use everyone on the field.  That has become less so with Owens, especially this season.

I don't have a problem with Owens getting more balls than the others.  He should as the number 1 receiver.  Sometimes, though, I have noticed McNabb trying to force the ball to Owens when there has been another receiver more open.

If the Eagles were 4-1 and had not lost badly to the Cowboys, this argument wouldn't be happening.  Hopefully the Eagles can destroy the Chargers today and put the doubts to rest, albeit temporarily. 

[Feva]

9 different receivers caught passes today...

Westbrook
Smith
Owens
McMullen
Lewis
Brown
Parry
Gordon
Spach

[Sgt PSN]

I don't even think McNabb looked TO's way until the 2nd qtr today. 

[shorebird]

TO had 7 catches for 53 yards with a TD. Not bad, but I'd have liked to seen McNabb go to him more.