Phillies Offseason Talk

Started by Geowhizzer, October 02, 2005, 11:46:28 PM

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rjs246

Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

SD_Eagle5

Quote from: FFatPatt on January 12, 2006, 01:59:39 PM
I'm sure, just like every other wannabe "inside" source, he will come up with some bogus excuse about why it's not happening, possibly even attempting to explain why we'll never hear publicly that it was even attempted.

Not saying I'm buying it, but his track record of calling stuff days before they happen is impressive. We'll see, don't know if he did post since the Mods changed his password.

Wingspan

if the name of the guy was iluvkruk...it was obviously either a hot dog vendor or a testicle collector. neither of which i would put much credence in when it comes to baseball news.
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SunMo

i guess it's a good thing that i don't put credence into what you put credence into
I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

PoopyfaceMcGee


Wingspan

Quote from: Sun_Mo on January 12, 2006, 02:17:45 PM
i guess it's a good thing that i don't put credence into what you put credence into

that would rip a hole in the universe
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MDS

If this goes down, I say we build a bronze statue of Pat Gillick and place it where Robin Roberts was at CBP. Anybody who saw him pitch is almost dead or has Alzheimers, so there won't be any tears if he knock down the old farts statue.
Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.

Mad-Lad

i really hope the Cubs trade Mark Prior.  When he's healthy, he's un-friggin believeable.  That, and i'd love to see him out of that uniform so i could actually enjoy watching him pitch in another division.

Geowhizzer

Quote from: FFatPatt on January 12, 2006, 02:30:31 PM


holla
Left a good job in the city
Workin' for the man every night and day
Haven't ever lost one minute of sleeping
Worried about the way things might have been

Been a lot of places down in memphis
I umped a lot of babes down in new orleans
Had a lot of shots at good times in the city
Till I hitched a ride on a river bout queen

A big wheel keeps on turnin'
Proud mary keeps on burnin', rollin', rollin'
Rollin' on a river
Rollin, rollin, rollin on a river

If you come down to the river
I betcha you're gonna find some people who live
You don't have to worry
'cause you have no money
People along the river are happy to give

I said a big wheel keeps on turnin'
Proud mary keeps on burnin', rollin', rollin'
Rollin' on a river
Rollin', rollin', rollin' on a river

SD_Eagle5

From the mlb.com board regarding ILK:


QuoteHe actually used to be an advance scout in the Ed Wade regime, but has been since replaced by Gillick's friend from Toronto and Seattle -- I forget his name. However, ilovekruk still has contacts, including Ruben Amaro, Jr.and Arbuckle still in place -- so he isn't blowing smoke so to speak.

PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: SD_Eagle on January 12, 2006, 03:18:25 PM
From the mlb.com board regarding ILK:


QuoteHe actually used to be an advance scout in the Ed Wade regime, but has been since replaced by Gillick's friend from Toronto and Seattle -- I forget his name. However, ilovekruk still has contacts, including Ruben Amaro, Jr.and Arbuckle still in place -- so he isn't blowing smoke so to speak.

I still say he's full of kruk.

SD_Eagle5


Rome


MDS

The mere fact that this appears to be a load of shtein tells me ilovekruk is made up
Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.

SD_Eagle5

New 'insider' from the Phils official board...enjoy  :-D

QuoteThanks for the vote of confidence whomever posted that....

I have verified this with people I know, and yes Mike Costanzo is my first cousin. People can say what they will what would a Phillies 2nd round darft pick know about the inner-workings of the Phils front office, I respond -- he is slated to play 3B for this team in two years..... Once Nunez's contract is up, he will be the opening day 3B. In fact, he will start the season in 2006 at Clearwater and then be moved to Reading my mid-season (if all goes well)...

Regardless, I also am pretty close with Johnny Marz (we both are Central HS baseball Alumni) and I work with him at his indoor camp in South Philly at Murphy Recreation Center from time to time as I am a HS Varsity coach. Despite what some "intelligent" posters here may think, John has A LOT of contacts in baseball in general and not just with SOME of the Phillies people.

Anyway, in regard to ilovekruk's post, this is legitimate, and MAY be ironed out by tomorrow. There is a 72-hour window for these things b/c of contracts and such, and you're dealing with two VERY high profile players with BIG contracts and COMPLEX langauge. So it's not as easy as people would think/hope -- and also the agents will want to have their say. Nonething seems to be a deal-breaker right now, other than the exact amount of money to be exchanged b/c of the option years. The Phillies want 5 million per year for the life of Manny's deal, and the BoSox only want to giver 3 million -- that is why there is still haggling over the prospects.

As to the sanity of this all, you can debate it all you want, but the deal makes the BoSox better with Michaels in CF and potentially Tejada at SS (if Abreu is flipped, but is VERY unlikley)... Regardless, the BoSox covet OBP much like the A's and this deal clearly helps them in that regard. Secondly, from the Phils side of it -- Ramirez replaces Abreu's offense and
Clement fills a SP need. Gillick has said all along if he could not get a LHP
to fill out the rotation, he wants an accomplished RHP in the rotation and Madson is not it. He obviuosly goes to the set-up role, which he has already done.

Bottom line, that is why I don't get in on these rumor discussions too much, but this one was just too juicy to shy away from. Hope people feel better right now.... Just be patient. Good things come to those who wait.....